The South Australian Political Landscape

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Is anyone surprised the Libs are as rubbish at governing as they were at being an opposition?

Report tabled by former government = the tram can't turn right, will cost too much.

Libs in election campaign "We'll get it to turn right!"

Libs post election "Yeah, umm, it'll cost too much."
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Booney wrote:Is anyone surprised the Libs are as rubbish at governing as they were at being an opposition?

Report tabled by former government = the tram can't turn right, will cost too much.

Libs in election campaign "We'll get it to turn right!"

Libs post election "Yeah, umm, it'll cost too much."


And dont forget about the parasite Chapman and the stooge Wingard =))
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Wingard is an interesting one, I've made mention in here previously that he should be capable of leading the party one day, he's clean cut, got media experience, right age profile, but my word is he hopeless under pressure or what?
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Booney wrote:Wingard is an interesting one, I've made mention in here previously that he should be capable of leading the party one day, he's clean cut, got media experience, right age profile, but my word is he hopeless under pressure or what?


Booney you are being way to nice.
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Booney wrote:Is anyone surprised the Libs are as rubbish at governing as they were at being an opposition?

Report tabled by former government = the tram can't turn right, will cost too much.

Libs in election campaign "We'll get it to turn right!"

Libs post election "Yeah, umm, it'll cost too much."
Oddly enough it would have been the most cost effective to put it in when the original project was being completed.

Whilst it was always going to be 1 election promise down the drain, you still need to point the finger at the previous government. It should have bee done right the first time.

There will be a few more to fall out as well, the Libs said some really dumb shit leading up the election and there is probably a few more that aren't feasible to fall over.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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stan wrote:
Booney wrote:Is anyone surprised the Libs are as rubbish at governing as they were at being an opposition?

Report tabled by former government = the tram can't turn right, will cost too much.

Libs in election campaign "We'll get it to turn right!"

Libs post election "Yeah, umm, it'll cost too much."
Oddly enough it would have been the most cost effective to put it in when the original project was being completed.

Whilst it was always going to be 1 election promise down the drain, you still need to point the finger at the previous government. It should have bee done right the first time.

There will be a few more to fall out as well, the Libs said some really dumb shit leading up the election and there is probably a few more that aren't feasible to fall over.


Sounds very similar to the Current Government "its labours fault" 8-}
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shoe boy wrote:
stan wrote:
Booney wrote:Is anyone surprised the Libs are as rubbish at governing as they were at being an opposition?

Report tabled by former government = the tram can't turn right, will cost too much.

Libs in election campaign "We'll get it to turn right!"

Libs post election "Yeah, umm, it'll cost too much."
Oddly enough it would have been the most cost effective to put it in when the original project was being completed.

Whilst it was always going to be 1 election promise down the drain, you still need to point the finger at the previous government. It should have bee done right the first time.

There will be a few more to fall out as well, the Libs said some really dumb shit leading up the election and there is probably a few more that aren't feasible to fall over.


Sounds very similar to the Current Government "its labours fault" 8-}
This time it really is, but still they made to promise without really understanding what was involved.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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shoe boy wrote:
stan wrote:
Booney wrote:Is anyone surprised the Libs are as rubbish at governing as they were at being an opposition?

Report tabled by former government = the tram can't turn right, will cost too much.

Libs in election campaign "We'll get it to turn right!"

Libs post election "Yeah, umm, it'll cost too much."
Oddly enough it would have been the most cost effective to put it in when the original project was being completed.

Whilst it was always going to be 1 election promise down the drain, you still need to point the finger at the previous government. It should have bee done right the first time.

There will be a few more to fall out as well, the Libs said some really dumb shit leading up the election and there is probably a few more that aren't feasible to fall over.


Sounds very similar to the Current Government "its labours fault" 8-}


It probably is. I read the details and the main problem is that the trams the ALP government bought turned out to be incapable of making the right turn without risk of tipping over, and replacing them with trams capable of doing it would add $70 odd million to the bill - not something you could anticipate until being in government gave you access to the hidden details...
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So, making a statement without facts is something that should be avoided?
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DOC wrote:So, making a statement without facts is something that should be avoided?
Yes but if that was done more often then places like this for example would be full of tumbleweed.
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DOC wrote:So, making a statement without facts is something that should be avoided?

Probably it would have been wise to say that they would do if if it proved to be feasible once they had access to the details...

But then, no political party likes to sound indefinite and let their opponents counter it with a statement that it is all out there in the open already - a lie which the electorate may then buy.

I'm inately sceptical of any promise by any political party - look at Paul Keating's forceful "L. A. W. Law!" statement about promised tax cuts as an example...
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Psyber wrote:
DOC wrote:So, making a statement without facts is something that should be avoided?

Probably it would have been wise to say that they would do if if it proved to be feasible once they had access to the details...

But then, no political party likes to sound indefinite and let their opponents counter it with a statement that it is all out there in the open already - a lie which the electorate may then buy.

I'm inately sceptical of any promise by any political party - look at Paul Keating's forceful "L. A. W. Law!" statement about promised tax cuts as an example...


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Psyber wrote:
DOC wrote:So, making a statement without facts is something that should be avoided?

Probably it would have been wise to say that they would do if if it proved to be feasible once they had access to the details...

But then, no political party likes to sound indefinite and let their opponents counter it with a statement that it is all out there in the open already - a lie which the electorate may then buy.

I'm inately sceptical of any promise by any political party - look at Paul Keating's forceful "L. A. W. Law!" statement about promised tax cuts as an example...


Hang on....hang on.....

So, Labor tells us all about these new trams, the Libs, then in opposition either 1), don't pick up on the fact there's no right turn or 2), don't ask why or, most likely 3), ask but can't gain any traction with it.
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Heard the other day the new trams on order are longer than the current rolling stock.

However, there is a recently constructed switching point near a station that is infact too close to the station leaving the arse end of the tram in the switch point. Which party built the track and ordered the new trams before being given the arse from Government.......
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Booney wrote:
Psyber wrote:
DOC wrote:So, making a statement without facts is something that should be avoided?

Probably it would have been wise to say that they would do if if it proved to be feasible once they had access to the details...

But then, no political party likes to sound indefinite and let their opponents counter it with a statement that it is all out there in the open already - a lie which the electorate may then buy.

I'm inately sceptical of any promise by any political party - look at Paul Keating's forceful "L. A. W. Law!" statement about promised tax cuts as an example...


Hang on....hang on.....

So, Labor tells us all about these new trams, the Libs, then in opposition either 1), don't pick up on the fact there's no right turn or 2), don't ask why or, most likely 3), ask but can't gain any traction with it.

I'd imagine 3). is the problem all opositions run into if the party in power has a clear majority.
That's why I like to see some independents in the mix.
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Psyber wrote:....

I'm inately sceptical of any promise by any political party - look at Paul Keating's forceful "L. A. W. Law!" statement about promised tax cuts as an example...

Fair point, as classics such as "No way that GST will ever be part of our (Coalition) policy, it's dead" and something about ETSA not being sold, only serve to re-enforce.
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Howard did win an election based on GST introduction
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StrayDog wrote:
Psyber wrote:....

I'm inately sceptical of any promise by any political party - look at Paul Keating's forceful "L. A. W. Law!" statement about promised tax cuts as an example...

Fair point, as classics such as "No way that GST will ever be part of our (Coalition) policy, it's dead" and something about ETSA not being sold, only serve to re-enforce.

And the Gillard/Rudd no carbon tax
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cracka wrote:
StrayDog wrote:
Psyber wrote:....

I'm inately sceptical of any promise by any political party - look at Paul Keating's forceful "L. A. W. Law!" statement about promised tax cuts as an example...

Fair point, as classics such as "No way that GST will ever be part of our (Coalition) policy, it's dead" and something about ETSA not being sold, only serve to re-enforce.

And the Gillard/Rudd no carbon tax


Gillard/Rudd had to compromise with the Greens to get power. It was actually a "reasonable" thing to do. Everyone has to compromise in a minority government / parliament

Keating's L.A.W. tax cuts was just a L.I.E.
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stan wrote:
shoe boy wrote:
stan wrote:
Booney wrote:Is anyone surprised the Libs are as rubbish at governing as they were at being an opposition?

Report tabled by former government = the tram can't turn right, will cost too much.

Libs in election campaign "We'll get it to turn right!"

Libs post election "Yeah, umm, it'll cost too much."
Oddly enough it would have been the most cost effective to put it in when the original project was being completed.

Whilst it was always going to be 1 election promise down the drain, you still need to point the finger at the previous government. It should have bee done right the first time.

There will be a few more to fall out as well, the Libs said some really dumb shit leading up the election and there is probably a few more that aren't feasible to fall over.



Sounds very similar to the Current Government "its labours fault" 8-}
This time it really is, but still they made to promise without really understanding what was involved.



Correction, the gradient of the intersection was always going to make it an impractical project.
Btw , has Knoll got off to the worst-ever start by a Minister?? The trams fiasco, the closure of The Overland, the closure of trains during the upcoming test match... and the list goes on.
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