SANFL Clubs

[Jim05]

Port Magpies aren’t going anywhere IMO
Will still be a 10 team comp for the foreseeable future unfortunately

[daysofourlives]

Once again Booney attacks people for having a different opinion to him, he thinks he is the authority on everything that is discussed on this forum, its actually quite laughable that someone can be such an ignoramus to think that his is the only opinion that is correct.
Its quite alright for people to wish for a SANFL without the Magpies and Crows, You cant blame people for getting a little bit excited that it might actually happen due to the rona and we can return to a comp on a level playing field.

[LMA]

Morning Ralph, will Sam be in today?

[Booney]

Once again Booney attacks people for having a different opinion to him, he thinks he is the authority on everything that is discussed on this forum, its actually quite laughable that someone can be such an ignoramus to think that his is the only opinion that is correct.
Its quite alright for people to wish for a SANFL without the Magpies and Crows, You cant blame people for getting a little bit excited that it might actually happen due to the rona and we can return to a comp on a level playing field.

On any topic in any part of life I'm willing to change my opinion or be educated by an evidence based argument by people whose opinion I respect. If I don't respect you it's unlikely I'll respect your opinion, pretty simple.

Actually, little mate, I think regardless of your stance on the AFL reserves gaining delight from the demise of something people covet is pretty ordinary behaviour. Me, I couldn't hate Centrals anymore if I tried, not a chance, but I've thrown $20 into the melting pot as there's people I know who care deeply for the club and I'd hate for them to witness the demise of something they love, particularly under these circumstances. I've had Glenelg and West Adelaide memberships in the past for the same reason.

So if you're saying that I think my opinion is right and UK/yours is wrong then absolutely, I think you're wrong here and not just because it's my club.

Enjoy your day, stay safe.

[RB]

I think regardless of your stance on the AFL reserves gaining delight from the demise of something people covet is pretty ordinary behaviour.

Who the heck covets them?

Magpies crowds have halved since they became the reserves, while at the same time they've made three grand finals, in contrast to their missing the finals most of the time between 2000-2013.

I don't doubt your devotion Booney but you're in a very small group.

Anyway I seem to recall the SANFL had to talk them into keeping the Magpies when the Power franchise was set up. It's pretty clear the Power would be happy for an excuse to get rid of them. (Although I think our celebrations are premature, as much as I'd like it to be true.)

Also the quote of yours I highlighted is a straw man argument. The vast majority of us want to see the reserves gone. Apart from UKF, delight in potentially seeing the Magpies go is only because it'll mean no reserves (assuming the Ravens get the arse). And I think you know that.

Our hatred for the reserves infiltration runs many orders of magnitude deeper than our dislike of Port and I for one would have no problem with a standalone Magpies returning à la 1997-2013.

[Booney]

I think regardless of your stance on the AFL reserves gaining delight from the demise of something people covet is pretty ordinary behaviour.

I don't doubt your devotion Booney but you're in a very small group.

Reserves issue aside, on that premise you're ok with West and South being killed off? There's not many of you, bad luck.

[Booney]

I think regardless of your stance on the AFL reserves gaining delight from the demise of something people covet is pretty ordinary behaviour.

Anyway I seem to recall the SANFL had to talk them into keeping the Magpies when the Power franchise was set up. .

I think it's been mentioned that it was a clause in the SANFL commissions decision to give the PAFC the second AFL licence that the club keep a presence in the SANFL but not be in anyway aligned with the Port Adelaide Football Club's AFL arm.

[Jim05]

Once again Booney attacks people for having a different opinion to him, he thinks he is the authority on everything that is discussed on this forum, its actually quite laughable that someone can be such an ignoramus to think that his is the only opinion that is correct.
Its quite alright for people to wish for a SANFL without the Magpies and Crows, You cant blame people for getting a little bit excited that it might actually happen due to the rona and we can return to a comp on a level playing field.

On any topic in any part of life I'm willing to change my opinion or be educated by an evidence based argument by people whose opinion I respect. If I don't respect you it's unlikely I'll respect your opinion, pretty simple.

Actually, little mate, I think regardless of your stance on the AFL reserves gaining delight from the demise of something people covet is pretty ordinary behaviour. Me, I couldn't hate Centrals anymore if I tried, not a chance, but I've thrown $20 into the melting pot as there's people I know who care deeply for the club and I'd hate for them to witness the demise of something they love, particularly under these circumstances. I've had Glenelg and West Adelaide memberships in the past for the same reason.

So if you're saying that I think my opinion is right and UK/yours is wrong then absolutely, I think you're wrong here and not just because it's my club.

Enjoy your day, stay safe.

You are one of the very rare bunch of Port supporters who understand the history of the SANFL.
Most Port fans would be very happy to see the total destruction of the SANFL and still lay blame on the SANFL for their dire finances

[Jim05]

I think regardless of your stance on the AFL reserves gaining delight from the demise of something people covet is pretty ordinary behaviour.

Anyway I seem to recall the SANFL had to talk them into keeping the Magpies when the Power franchise was set up. .

I think it's been mentioned that it was a clause in the SANFL commissions decision to give the PAFC the second AFL licence that the club keep a presence in the SANFL but not be in anyway aligned with the Port Adelaide Football Club's AFL arm.

Which I still maintain was weak at the time by the SANFL.
No problem with Port going to a bigger and better league but that should have been the end of them in the SANFL there and then. Terrible decision to keep Port in the SANFL by all involved

[amber_fluid]

Having the AFL reserves sides in the SANFL has done very little for their actual AFL sides.
Both AFL sides missing finals regularly since then.
Wasn’t that initially suppose to be their biggest gain?

I’d like to see the Port Magpies revert back to a standalone team once again.

The Power can disperse their players elsewhere.

[Booney]

I think regardless of your stance on the AFL reserves gaining delight from the demise of something people covet is pretty ordinary behaviour.

Anyway I seem to recall the SANFL had to talk them into keeping the Magpies when the Power franchise was set up. .

I think it's been mentioned that it was a clause in the SANFL commissions decision to give the PAFC the second AFL licence that the club keep a presence in the SANFL but not be in anyway aligned with the Port Adelaide Football Club's AFL arm.

Which I still maintain was weak at the time by the SANFL.
No problem with Port going to a bigger and better league but that should have been the end of them in the SANFL there and then. Terrible decision to keep Port in the SANFL by all involved

It's certainly what the PAFC thought was happening.

[FlyingHigh]

Is it true that SANFL players have already been told there won't be SANFL reserves next year?

[Jim05]

[quote="Booney"]I think regardless of your stance on the AFL reserves gaining delight from the demise of something people covet is pretty ordinary behaviour.

Anyway I seem to recall the SANFL had to talk them into keeping the Magpies when the Power franchise was set up. .

I think it's been mentioned that it was a clause in the SANFL commissions decision to give the PAFC the second AFL licence that the club keep a presence in the SANFL but not be in anyway aligned with the Port Adelaide Football Club's AFL arm.

Which I still maintain was weak at the time by the SANFL.
No problem with Port going to a bigger and better league but that should have been the end of them in the SANFL there and then. Terrible decision to keep Port in the SANFL by all involved

It's certainly what the PAFC thought was happening.[/quote]Hindsight is a wonderful thing hey but at the time many predicted that it would cause dramas and an identity crisis and that’s exactly what it’s done.
Would have been so much easier with a clean break

[Jim05]

Is it true that SANFL players have already been told there won't be SANFL reserves next year?

That is my understanding.
I’m actually staggered it’s lasted so long, really a waste of clubs resources.
Much better to just play the U18’s with say 6 overage spots for the quality footballers coming back from injury or on the fringe. The rest go back to their community club.
I know there have been the odd exception but by in large anyone who has played over 50 Reserves games is not going to make it in the SANFL

[LMA]

Having the AFL reserves sides in the SANFL has done very little for their actual AFL sides.
Both AFL sides missing finals regularly since then.
Wasn’t that initially suppose to be their biggest gain?

I’d like to see the Port Magpies revert back to a standalone team once again.

The Power can disperse their players elsewhere.

Pretty sure it was more about control and development of players. Keeping them together was the logical step.

[amber_fluid]

Having the AFL reserves sides in the SANFL has done very little for their actual AFL sides.
Both AFL sides missing finals regularly since then.
Wasn’t that initially suppose to be their biggest gain?

I’d like to see the Port Magpies revert back to a standalone team once again.

The Power can disperse their players elsewhere.

Pretty sure it was more about control and development of players. Keeping them together was the logical step.

At the expense of winning premierships?
Got it now.

They’ve both gone backwards........

[JK]

Is it true that SANFL players have already been told there won't be SANFL reserves next year?

That is my understanding.
I’m actually staggered it’s lasted so long, really a waste of clubs resources.
Much better to just play the U18’s with say 6 overage spots for the quality footballers coming back from injury or on the fringe. The rest go back to their community club.
I know there have been the odd exception but by in large anyone who has played over 50 Reserves games is not going to make it in the SANFL

Think once the womens footy commenced it was always the beginning of the end for the Magoos

[Jim05]

Having the AFL reserves sides in the SANFL has done very little for their actual AFL sides.
Both AFL sides missing finals regularly since then.
Wasn’t that initially suppose to be their biggest gain?

I’d like to see the Port Magpies revert back to a standalone team once again.

The Power can disperse their players elsewhere.

Pretty sure it was more about control and development of players. Keeping them together was the logical step.

At the expense of winning premierships?
Got it now.

I don’t think there is conclusive evidence that either model leads to winning flags.

[UK Fan]

I think it's been mentioned that it was a clause in the SANFL commissions decision to give the PAFC the second AFL licence that the club keep a presence in the SANFL but not be in anyway aligned with the Port Adelaide Football Club's AFL arm.

Which I still maintain was weak at the time by the SANFL.
No problem with Port going to a bigger and better league but that should have been the end of them in the SANFL there and then. Terrible decision to keep Port in the SANFL by all involved

It's certainly what the PAFC thought was happening.

Are we still crying about that, it was 25 years ago ffs. Of course sanfl would want to keep the most successful club and reigning premier in the comp. can I ask honestly which idiot thought otherwise ?? If you didn’t like the entry conditions don’t sign off on them simple.

Port fans seem obsessed with blaming sanfl for their clubs recent ineptness imho.

And if it was such a hideous mistake surely every port fan will be happy about the Maggies demise now. And you would seem hypocritical to look down on anyone happy with the news .

You finally get what you want.

Just don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out

[VALE PARK]

Removing the reserves comp would see another nail in the SANFL coffin to me.
Watch the crowds,income, standard and members numbers fall further.
It will drive U16 and U18 school boys being selected.
(Playing against AFL standard players).
Some weaker clubs will load up on the above kids when they can’t make finals.
Ammos clubs will probably say no, especially with key contract players and toward their finals.
A slippery slope.
At the moment the AFL crowd need a reserves team, why not the SANFL?