PDCA

[The Bedge]

The perception that two day cricket is sooo much harder, and longer days in the field shits me - I talk to blokes who are too good for our LO side, try to get them in the Grade 4 side "nah too old for two day cricket, body cant handle the extra overs etc etc"

Like piss off with your weak excuses - Round 1 Two Wells batted 48 overs (over 2 Saturdays), Round 2 North Pines 46 overs week 1 and 33 overs week 2.

Sides in low grades very very rarely bat the whole day out.

[whufc]

The perception that two day cricket is sooo much harder, and longer days in the field shits me - I talk to blokes who are too good for our LO side, try to get them in the Grade 4 side "nah too old for two day cricket, body cant handle the extra overs etc etc"

Like piss off with your weak excuses - Round 1 Two Wells batted 48 overs (over 2 Saturdays), Round 2 North Pines 46 overs week 1 and 33 overs week 2.

Sides in low grades very very rarely bat the whole day out.

Absolutely agree its a big cop out.

Like you Bedge having captained sides before the shorter length of the game the harder it is to give everyone a 'fair go'. 40 over cricket is a nightmare for that especially if you have a couple of handy all rounders who bat in your top 5 and bowl top 4.

We play 45 over cricket in Stanley and in 3 years I don't think I have had the chance to bat (i would have got out anyway) for more than 15 overs once in that time. Luckily im at the end of my time and just enjoy the day out but if you were still really keen on your cricket that would be pretty disheartening.

You will never keep players long term if they don't feel they are getting a go.

[Lightning McQueen]

The perception that two day cricket is sooo much harder, and longer days in the field shits me - I talk to blokes who are too good for our LO side, try to get them in the Grade 4 side "nah too old for two day cricket, body cant handle the extra overs etc etc"

Like piss off with your weak excuses - Round 1 Two Wells batted 48 overs (over 2 Saturdays), Round 2 North Pines 46 overs week 1 and 33 overs week 2.

Sides in low grades very very rarely bat the whole day out.

I get bored and tired having to bat for so long in the two dayers.

[Tony Clifton]

Never really understood the "it's too hard to give everyone a go" argument about one dayers

You have 100% control over who bowls and 100% control of your batting order. If people "didn't get a go" then it's on you

If a couple of guys open the batting and open the bowling every week and no one else gets a look in then the problem isn't the format of the game

[heater31]

Never really understood the "it's too hard to give everyone a go" argument about one dayers

You have 100% control over who bowls and 100% control of your batting order. If people "didn't get a go" then it's on you

If a couple of guys open the batting and open the bowling every week and no one else gets a look in then the problem isn't the format of the game

Read the game situation......against weaker opposition change up the order

[Lightning McQueen]

Never really understood the "it's too hard to give everyone a go" argument about one dayers

You have 100% control over who bowls and 100% control of your batting order. If people "didn't get a go" then it's on you

If a couple of guys open the batting and open the bowling every week and no one else gets a look in then the problem isn't the format of the game

Read the game situation......against weaker opposition change up the order

You are both 100% correct. I was always one for chucking 15-16 year olds in the A Grade and not just to fill the numbers and everyone had a role, if we played a weaker team or rolled a team for Jackshit then the kids would go up the order.

I made sure we picked our B's and C's for balance too in the one dayers, there's no point having your best 11 in the A's if you can't maximise their potential, having too many top order all-rounders is painful unless you got a couple of older heads who don't mind batting low and just sledging from the slips.

[whufc]

Never really understood the "it's too hard to give everyone a go" argument about one dayers

You have 100% control over who bowls and 100% control of your batting order. If people "didn't get a go" then it's on you

If a couple of guys open the batting and open the bowling every week and no one else gets a look in then the problem isn't the format of the game

I think in 40 over A Grade cricket it can be difficult on a game by game situation, over the whole season you should be able to achieve this by identifying games / moments that its easier to 'give everyone a go' The challenge is its easy enough to chuck a bloke as an opener so he definitely 'gets a go' but in a lot of cases you could be setting them up to fail if they are not ready for the job.

The balance in A grade cricket I found has always been tricker to find between giving the team the best chance to win and giving everyone a go.

B grade wasn't so hard, we tended to give the younger kids pushing for A Grade the best opportunities and the old boys took what they could.

C grade was easy as whilst winning is important ultimately there is more tolerance for giving everyone a crack.

Even on the weekend we bowled a team out for 57, we made it 1 down (losing a wicket with 3 runs to get) at most only three people were going to get a go with the bat. As captain there isn't anything you can do to give others a go in that situation.

[whufc]

Never really understood the "it's too hard to give everyone a go" argument about one dayers

You have 100% control over who bowls and 100% control of your batting order. If people "didn't get a go" then it's on you

If a couple of guys open the batting and open the bowling every week and no one else gets a look in then the problem isn't the format of the game

Read the game situation......against weaker opposition change up the order

You are both 100% correct. I was always one for chucking 15-16 year olds in the A Grade and not just to fill the numbers and everyone had a role, if we played a weaker team or rolled a team for Jackshit then the kids would go up the order.

I made sure we picked our B's and C's for balance too in the one dayers, there's no point having your best 11 in the A's if you can't maximise their potential, having too many top order all-rounders is painful unless you got a couple of older heads who don't mind batting low and just sledging from the slips.

I agree selection is the big key and making sure you have a balanced side. The difficulty comes when players have expectations on what them 'getting a go is'. All rounders want to get a bat and a bowl if they don't do that they feel like their not 'getting a go'

I think if you can communicate well you do erase half the problem. When I was at Sevenhill they approached me prior to the first game and said look if we were picking a side based on purely best order you would bat at 5. Issue is our 6 and 7 don't bowl and you will be guaranteed a bowl every week....do you mind batting at 7 all year. I was more than happy with that and in truth my batting was awful and I ended up at 8 and 9 fairly.

[The Bedge]

I've found sometimes in the two day games players have less involvement - particularly at our club where everyone can bowl.. I have a kid for instance who opens the bowling, bowls his first spell then generally through circumstance might not bowl for the rest of the day, and bats 11.

So effectively for 2 days he just fields/watches while I bowl 20+ straight coz it's all about me.

As you said though, communication is key and I love a balanced side where everyone feels they have a role. Take Rackebrandt for instance - he bats 7 in our side but could comfortably bat top 4.. he doesn't complain or care, he knows he will bowl either straight up or first change and likely a lot of overs.

[Slowleftarm]

The perception that two day cricket is sooo much harder, and longer days in the field shits me - I talk to blokes who are too good for our LO side, try to get them in the Grade 4 side "nah too old for two day cricket, body cant handle the extra overs etc etc"

Like piss off with your weak excuses - Round 1 Two Wells batted 48 overs (over 2 Saturdays), Round 2 North Pines 46 overs week 1 and 33 overs week 2.

Sides in low grades very very rarely bat the whole day out.

Give me 2 day cricket any day plus chuck in 40 plus degree day's and I thrived. Yes I am fat but wouldn't stop trying in those tenps

[The Bedge]

Give me 2 day cricket any day plus chuck in 40 plus degree day's and I thrived. Yes I am fat but wouldn't stop trying in those tenps

This is why you're in the top 3 all time left arm tweakers for R&C.

[Slowleftarm]

Give me 2 day cricket any day plus chuck in 40 plus degree day's and I thrived. Yes I am fat but wouldn't stop trying in those tenps

This is why you're in the top 3 all time left arm tweakers for R&C.

Just below you on that list??

[The Bedge]

Give me 2 day cricket any day plus chuck in 40 plus degree day's and I thrived. Yes I am fat but wouldn't stop trying in those tenps

This is why you're in the top 3 all time left arm tweakers for R&C.

Just below you on that list??

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[Lightning McQueen]

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You hating cricket atm?

[The Bedge]

You hating cricket atm?

You have no idea how much.

[The Bedge]

I hear the PDCA prez plays for sheep stations in the Jnrs.. U14 game the other week retired a kid for batting too slow, so that he could get his best bat in

[whufc]

I hear the PDCA prez plays for sheep stations in the Jnrs.. U14 game the other week retired a kid for batting too slow, so that he could get his best bat in

Out of curiosity who is the prez these days.

[The Bedge]

I hear the PDCA prez plays for sheep stations in the Jnrs.. U14 game the other week retired a kid for batting too slow, so that he could get his best bat in

Out of curiosity who is the prez these days.

http://pdca.sa.cricket.com.au/PDCA-Home.aspx?rw=c

[auto]

I hear the PDCA prez plays for sheep stations in the Jnrs.. U14 game the other week retired a kid for batting too slow, so that he could get his best bat in [emoji38]

Out of curiosity who is the prez these days.

http://pdca.sa.cricket.com.au/PDCA-Home.aspx?rw=c

Just checked the results and there doesnt look to be a single case in the first 3 games by TW U14's of retiring a batter prematurely.

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[auto]

Bigger crime is how i got out lbw off the bat. #stilldirty

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