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Jim05 wrote:
stan wrote:
locky801 wrote:
heater31 wrote:The Snitch is already in election mode promising more paramedics all over the state!
That was always going to happen, hopefully all South Australians will see him for what he is :roll:
More paramedics isn't going to fix the issue, just more ramping to be honest. You kind of need to fix the ramping at the source.

I mean more paramedics is always. Good addition but unless we get these hospitals under control we will just be back in the same situation.
Labor only had 16 years in power to sort it out yet here we are and somehow Marshall is terrible for not being able to fix it in 3 years in the middle of a global pandemic.
True, transforming health was an absolute disaster, there is little doubt about that. They looked to centralise resources to reduce costs but the central systems they were looking to setup were under done and just was never going to work.

However, Marshall looked to reverse the more visible items of transforming health and then made cuts in other areas and then Korda Mentha and the razor gang have been brought in to cut further areas with a massive consultant cost to this.

Essentially he's all talk, all gloss and just making things worse.

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Basically less hospital beds means you can't clear the ED, and clogging up the ED leaves ambulances stuck in a queue.

This trend began in about 1984 when state governments all seemed to take up the idea that outpatient services run by nurses and social workers and the occasional part-time doctor or Psychologist could provide for mental health needs and GP's could handle most minor general medical issues, thus allowing the gradual closure of Psych hospitals and selling off the land. That ended the mental health services casualty system which allowed walk in and be seen, diverting Psych patients to public general hospital EDs. The other money saving step was stopping training nurses in the general hospital as an economy measure. This backfired because less nurses trained and they eventually became more expensive, and having enough nurses to keep beds open became costly.

Gradually, too, given that the original Medicare rebate on medical services has only risen by about 65% of inflation per year since 1975 when the Medibank system (later replaced as Medicare) was introduced, GP's reduced the amount bulk billing they would do.

When I was working in private practice I bulk-billed all pensioners and all the unemployed until 1987 when it had become non-viable. I gave up private practice in 2008. These days I can earn more per week filling in as a locum in a public medical team than I could in private practice - that's the reverse of what it used to be!
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stan wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
stan wrote:
locky801 wrote: That was always going to happen, hopefully all South Australians will see him for what he is :roll:
More paramedics isn't going to fix the issue, just more ramping to be honest. You kind of need to fix the ramping at the source.

I mean more paramedics is always. Good addition but unless we get these hospitals under control we will just be back in the same situation.
Labor only had 16 years in power to sort it out yet here we are and somehow Marshall is terrible for not being able to fix it in 3 years in the middle of a global pandemic.
True, transforming health was an absolute disaster, there is little doubt about that. They looked to centralise resources to reduce costs but the central systems they were looking to setup were under done and just was never going to work.

However, Marshall looked to reverse the more visible items of transforming health and then made cuts in other areas and then Korda Mentha and the razor gang have been brought in to cut further areas with a massive consultant cost to this.

Essentially he's all talk, all gloss and just making things worse.

And Jim we get it, you are a Blue Blood liberal through and through, we get it.
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Jim05 wrote:
stan wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
stan wrote:More paramedics isn't going to fix the issue, just more ramping to be honest. You kind of need to fix the ramping at the source.

I mean more paramedics is always. Good addition but unless we get these hospitals under control we will just be back in the same situation.
Labor only had 16 years in power to sort it out yet here we are and somehow Marshall is terrible for not being able to fix it in 3 years in the middle of a global pandemic.
True, transforming health was an absolute disaster, there is little doubt about that. They looked to centralise resources to reduce costs but the central systems they were looking to setup were under done and just was never going to work.

However, Marshall looked to reverse the more visible items of transforming health and then made cuts in other areas and then Korda Mentha and the razor gang have been brought in to cut further areas with a massive consultant cost to this.

Essentially he's all talk, all gloss and just making things worse.

And Jim we get it, you are a Blue Blood liberal through and through, we get it.
I’m actually not always a LNP voter and at Federal and state level previously have voted for others. I’m just anti Labor, anyone in charge is better than them
Cmon Jim, we don't need the Greens in charge..

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stan wrote:And Jim we get it, you are a Blue Blood liberal through and through, we get it.
Thats always the line when it doesnt fit the narrative, bit like labelling those not comfortable with a Covid Vax as Anti-vaxxers.
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DEATHS as of 29/1/2022
7:00pm

VI 1970
NS 1315
QL 183
SA 110
ACT 26
TA 17
WA 9 at present ZERO cases =D>
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JK wrote:
stan wrote:And Jim we get it, you are a Blue Blood liberal through and through, we get it.
Thats always the line when it doesnt fit the narrative, bit like labelling those not comfortable with a Covid Vax as Anti-vaxxers.
I wouldn't say that, Jim's a stanuch liberal from Norwood.

He also knows when I'm taking the piss a bit as well.
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Went for my 3rd jab recently
Went to the Chemist and was attended to by a female Pharmacist
We are in the jab booth, she checked the form I filled out
" Is there anything else you need to tell me before i give you the Booster jab?'
I adjusted my belt and said
" Yes, I'm very large down there."
She slapped my faced and stormed out of the booth
Very inconsiderate of her, at my age an enlarged prostate is a serious matter
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I can assure you that Jim is Team Red all the way.













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Anyone know what the update was today?
Same shit different day I assume?
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Marshall wants those in the cbd to return to work.
Most of those businesses have executed work from home to minimise any potential outbreak and staff having to isolate...

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mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Marshall wants those in the cbd to return to work.
Most of those businesses have executed work from home to minimise any potential outbreak and staff having to isolate...

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Didn’t he only change it to 25% go back into the office only last week or week before?
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amber_fluid wrote:Anyone know what the update was today?
Same shit different day I assume?
6 families shattered.
1505 new cases.
281 in hospital.
25 in ICU (4).
19,847 active cases.
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Numbers getting better apart from deaths.
Some good signs in most states currently.
Will be a few days lag with deaths unfortunately but hopefully within a week they have dropped right off
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Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:Anyone know what the update was today?
Same shit different day I assume?
6 families shattered.
1505 new cases.
281 in hospital.
25 in ICU (4).
19,847 active cases.
I didn’t mean numbers, I meant restrictions changes.
And yes any loss of life is a tragedy regardless of the reason.
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mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Marshall wants those in the cbd to return to work.
Most of those businesses have executed work from home to minimise any potential outbreak and staff having to isolate...

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amber_fluid wrote:
Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:Anyone know what the update was today?
Same shit different day I assume?
6 families shattered.
1505 new cases.
281 in hospital.
25 in ICU (4).
19,847 active cases.
I didn’t mean numbers, I meant restrictions changes.
And yes any loss of life is a tragedy regardless of the reason.
Restriction changes were announced on Friday, I doubt they'd ever implement easing of restrictions two business days in a row.
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Wedgie wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:Anyone know what the update was today?
Same shit different day I assume?
6 families shattered.
1505 new cases.
281 in hospital.
25 in ICU (4).
19,847 active cases.
I didn’t mean numbers, I meant restrictions changes.
And yes any loss of life is a tragedy regardless of the reason.
Restriction changes were announced on Friday, I doubt they'd ever implement easing of restrictions two business days in a row.
Marshall wouldn’t know what day of the week it is unless someone told him
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Many employers are still not budging at the moment.

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