The South Australian Political Landscape

[Roxy the Rat Girl]

9 portfolios and still get a round of golf in each week - I like it.

[Sky Pilot]

9 portfolios and still get a round of golf in each week - I like it.

Well, how hard would it be to run SA? The beauracracy and public service do all the admin, the cast of 1000s take care of the spade work, the unions make sure no one steps out of line and actually rock the boat so it all just flows. The Premier and his/her colleagues just need to swan around pretending to be in charge. It would be a shite job anyway and doesn't pay all that well considering the scrutiny you live under.

[OnSong]

Doesn't this mean that these portfolios are in effect not represented in cabinet?

Not entirely. I think the idea is these so-called outer shadow ministers regularly work with the 8 core shadow ministers, who then take these issues into cabinet meetings.

For example, Steven Griffiths will work with M H-S when it comes to the regional development portfolio etc. I'm not sure how foolproof it is but apparently its a corporate structure often used in big business.

[Roxy the Rat Girl]

OK thanks. Will be interesting to see if it translate from business to Government.

[OnSong]

OK thanks. Will be interesting to see if it translate from business to Government.

x2

[Gozu]

Two lunatics for the price of one!

A SOUTH Australian MP paid for controversial climate change sceptic Christopher Monckton to fly to Adelaide and make a speech earlier this month – and then spoke at the same event about the Club of Rome, Agenda 21 and the UN-sponsored world government controlling Australia.

Independent member of the upper house Ann Bressington opened an event starring Monckton at the Convention Centre on February 2.

Bressington confirmed to Indaily she sponsored Monckton’s Adelaide trip, but wouldn’t reveal how much money she contributed.

http://indaily.wordpress.com/2013/02/13 ... aide-trip/

[OnSong]

I can't really digest any of that.

[dedja]

Bressington is an affront to democracy and if she had any moral fibre, would have resigned her seat long ago.

She received a handful of votes on Nick Xenophon's ticket and didn't have any expectation of winning a senate seat, then basically dis-owned Xenophon and now pursues her warped agenda with moral and ethical illegitimacy.

Has absolutely no hope of ever being re-elected.

Your democracy at work ...

[Q.]

Bressington is an affront to democracy and if she had any moral fibre, would have resigned her seat long ago.

She received a handful of votes on Nick Xenophon's ticket and didn't have any expectation of winning a senate seat, then basically dis-owned Xenophon and now pursues her warped agenda with moral and ethical illegitimacy.

Has absolutely no hope of ever being re-elected.

Your democracy at work ...

A lot of progressive voters were disgruntled by this. She is the true definition of loopy.

[OnSong]

Bressington is an affront to democracy and if she had any moral fibre, would have resigned her seat long ago.

She received a handful of votes on Nick Xenophon's ticket and didn't have any expectation of winning a senate seat, then basically dis-owned Xenophon and now pursues her warped agenda with moral and ethical illegitimacy.

Has absolutely no hope of ever being re-elected.

Your democracy at work ...

A lot of progressive voters were disgruntled by this. She is the true definition of loopy.

She is F'd in the H

[Sky Pilot]

Bressington is an affront to democracy and if she had any moral fibre, would have resigned her seat long ago.

She received a handful of votes on Nick Xenophon's ticket and didn't have any expectation of winning a senate seat, then basically dis-owned Xenophon and now pursues her warped agenda with moral and ethical illegitimacy.

Has absolutely no hope of ever being re-elected.

Your democracy at work ...

A lot of progressive voters were disgruntled by this. She is the true definition of loopy.

Worse than Sarah H-Y?
F***k she must be bad!

[Roxy the Rat Girl]

Bressington is an affront to democracy and if she had any moral fibre, would have resigned her seat long ago.

She received a handful of votes on Nick Xenophon's ticket and didn't have any expectation of winning a senate seat, then basically dis-owned Xenophon and now pursues her warped agenda with moral and ethical illegitimacy.

Has absolutely no hope of ever being re-elected.

Your democracy at work ...

A lot of progressive voters were disgruntled by this. She is the true definition of loopy.

She is F'd in the H

She is unrepresentative and a disgrace to the South Australian public.

[Psyber]

OK thanks. Will be interesting to see if it translate from business to Government.

Studies of group dynamics suggest that any group of more than 9 tends to break up into factions so decisions take longer to make and sometimes can't be made at all - or keep getting changed.

Sound familiar?

[southee]

Bressington is an affront to democracy and if she had any moral fibre, would have resigned her seat long ago.

She received a handful of votes on Nick Xenophon's ticket and didn't have any expectation of winning a senate seat, then basically dis-owned Xenophon and now pursues her warped agenda with moral and ethical illegitimacy.

Has absolutely no hope of ever being re-elected.

Your democracy at work ...

A lot of progressive voters were disgruntled by this. She is the true definition of loopy.

Worse than Sarah H-Y?
F***k she must be bad!

Dont think anyone is worse than SHY

[Gozu]

Clearly Bressington is.

[Jimmy_041]

Wo betide anyone voicing an opposite view
Whether he's right or wrong, he is still allowed to have an opinion and tell it to anyone who wants to listen.

[Sky Pilot]

That's what our forefathers fought a couple of wars over isn't it?

[Gozu]

Wo betide anyone voicing an opposite view
Whether he's right or wrong, he is still allowed to have an opinion and tell it to anyone who wants to listen.

I agree as insane as some views are the Fredrick Toben's of the world should still be allowed to have their say, not sure anyone suggested otherwise either.

[Squawk]

I'm sure I heard Stephen Marshall say in the press conference to announce his Shadow Ministry "Every potfolio will represented in the cabinet, but some potfolios will be delegated down to deputy shadow minsters who are not in the cabinet". Doesn't this mean that these portfolios are in effect not represented in cabinet? Ah what the heck, I like the guy.

Roxy -
Cabinet applies to the Govt. of the day. Shadow Cabinet applies to the Opposition of the day.
Inner and Outer Ministries are not completely uncommon - the Federal Govt is a prolific exponent of having such an arrangement. The Outer Ministry may attend Cabinet meetings when they have a submission, or otherwise be represented by their more senior Cabinet representative. For example, I think the Minister for Home Affairs is in the outer Ministry, but the Attorney-General is in the inner Ministry and therefore, in Cabinet.
By adopting this model, I think Marshall has tried to create a niche leadership team, rather than trying to herd cats across the whole shadow ministry. Old rivals in MHS, Chapman, Evans etc are all part of effectively a senior leadership group.
The current state Govt had a similar model for many years - under a different name. It was called the Executive Committee of Cabinet, and from memory it had about 5 senior Ministers (Rann, Foley, Conlon, Hill included from memory), and was supplemented by unelected members, including the Chair who was Robert Champion de Crespigny. Many significant issues for Cabinet consideration were required to be considered by ExComm in the first instance, or by referral.
Even currently, there is an arrangement whereby there is "Cabinet" and "Cabinet Sub Committee". The latter considers most of the routine business that govt is responsible for - eg Board appointments, to allow the agenda of full Cabinet to not become overburdened.
Hope that helps explain the "Marshall Plan" in the context of current operating arrangements of both the (current) Federal and State (Labor) Governments.

[Roxy the Rat Girl]

Thanks Squawk, that certainly sheds a bit of light on it for me. Cheers.