CH9AFL DIvision 4 2016

[Demon Juke]

Does sound like theyre getting a pretty good deal...

They can't do anything with the "B" grade now! Maybe they should start with minus point's next year, but no way should be the "A" Grade get a deal like that. They should have points deducted this year( if the bloke is found guilty) and if that means that they are relegated to div 5 then this is there penalty. They should not be getting any special treatment to save them from relegation, Salisbury and other clubs have lost a few spots on the ladder when they where deducted points.

[Wazz17]

Congratulation to the HVFC on their B grades well deserved win, far too accomplished for our lads.
Not sure about the umpiring though, all I can say is that we expected better with so many good umpires available but received two very inept guys who were inconsistent & confusing with their decisions on both sides.

As you do when you know where your sides are going to finish there is always a scramble to qualify players which HVFC did a great job in doing and as we have certainly done in the past don't worry about that!
HVFC also applied for and got a permit for a player who played 9 A grade games and 7 B grade games. Not correct as far as the leagues ruling suggests but was given the permit based on the fact he played those last 7 games in the B's so he must be a B grader. What the?

[beef]

Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

[Wazz17]

Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

Riddle - Tonkin - Wood - Slater not a bad group of players to have qualify for a B grade final.
As I said HV did nothing wrong & were too good for us on the day, no question & no sour grapes but the facts are the facts.

[Jimmy_041]

I have nothing to do with permits so this is a personal opinion.
On the face of it, 9 / 7 means he was one game the wrong side of the equation and the fact he played the last 7 games in the B Grade would probably have tipped the scales. I would suggest if he'd played 7 B Grade and then 9 A Grade; he would have been drinking beer at 12.15
I don't have a problem with the permit. Good common sense approach

[Footy Chick]

Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

Riddle - Tonkin - Wood - Slater not a bad group of players to have qualify for a B grade final.
As I said HV did nothing wrong & were too good for us on the day, no question & no sour grapes but the facts are the facts.

Woody only played A grade in the first few rounds from memroy, he played a lot of B and a few C grade and missed about 3 or 4 games in between due to personal reasons, Slats and Benny had far from amazing form leading up to finals, hence why they ended up in B grade.

[Footy Chick]

Congratulation to the HVFC on their B grades well deserved win, far too accomplished for our lads.
Not sure about the umpiring though, all I can say is that we expected better with so many good umpires available but received two very inept guys who were inconsistent & confusing with their decisions on both sides.

As the finals are so staggered this year, normally we'd have a crop of D2 and 3 umps available to umpire lower grade finals but they're only just finishing their minor rounds now - but round 1 of D1 finals starts on our GF day so unlikely we'll see much of the top umps.

I will say one thing though, probably the cleanest game of footy i've ever seen between the 2 sides ever

[S Demon]

Congratulation to the HVFC on their B grades well deserved win, far too accomplished for our lads.
Not sure about the umpiring though, all I can say is that we expected better with so many good umpires available but received two very inept guys who were inconsistent & confusing with their decisions on both sides.

As the finals are so staggered this year, normally we'd have a crop of D2 and 3 umps available to umpire lower grade finals but they're only just finishing their minor rounds now - but round 1 of D1 finals starts on our GF day so unlikely we'll see much of the top umps.

I will say one thing though, probably the cleanest game of footy i've ever seen between the 2 sides ever :lol:

Yep, Eastern Park's oval didn't have much mud on it

[S Demon]

Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

Riddle - Tonkin - Wood - Slater not a bad group of players to have qualify for a B grade final.
As I said HV did nothing wrong & were too good for us on the day, no question & no sour grapes but the facts are the facts.

Riddle - U18 still developing played A's and B's
Tonkin - Lucky to even play B grade with his form
Wood - Has been playing C grade in the 2nd half of the year although he is a good player
Slater - Form slump and was dropped to the 2's

None of this was done with B grade finals in mind. Best 22 was picked each week as we were trying to win as many games as possible to avoid relegation. B grade success means very little in comparison to the A grade being relegated for the first time in over 10 years

[Footy Chick]

Congratulation to the HVFC on their B grades well deserved win, far too accomplished for our lads.
Not sure about the umpiring though, all I can say is that we expected better with so many good umpires available but received two very inept guys who were inconsistent & confusing with their decisions on both sides.

As the finals are so staggered this year, normally we'd have a crop of D2 and 3 umps available to umpire lower grade finals but they're only just finishing their minor rounds now - but round 1 of D1 finals starts on our GF day so unlikely we'll see much of the top umps.

I will say one thing though, probably the cleanest game of footy i've ever seen between the 2 sides ever :lol:

Yep, Eastern Park's oval didn't have much mud on it

You weren't even there, how would you know

[Footy Chick]

Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

Riddle - Tonkin - Wood - Slater not a bad group of players to have qualify for a B grade final.
As I said HV did nothing wrong & were too good for us on the day, no question & no sour grapes but the facts are the facts.

Riddle - U18 still developing played A's and B's
Tonkin - Lucky to even play B grade with his form
Wood - Has been playing C grade in the 2nd half of the year although he is a good player
Slater - Form slump and was dropped to the 2's

None of this was done with B grade finals in mind. Best 22 was picked each week as we were trying to win as many games as possible to avoid relegation. B grade success means very little in comparison to the A grade being relegated for the first time in over 10 years

Is there an echo in the room?

[Dols]

The only people that care about B grade finals are the people that are playing in them and their mums.


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[wonder_kid]

From what I've been told ep averaged about 6 b graders to training ! Maybe thats the reason they lost a final?

[Footy Chick]

From what I've been told ep averaged about 6 b graders to training ! Maybe thats the reason they lost a final?

We weren't much better throughout the year from what I understand.

[S Demon]

From what I've been told ep averaged about 6 b graders to training ! Maybe thats the reason they lost a final?

We weren't much better throughout the year from what I understand.

You weren't even there so how would you know

[Wazz17]

Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

Riddle - Tonkin - Wood - Slater not a bad group of players to have qualify for a B grade final.
As I said HV did nothing wrong & were too good for us on the day, no question & no sour grapes but the facts are the facts.

Riddle - U18 still developing played A's and B's
Tonkin - Lucky to even play B grade with his form
Wood - Has been playing C grade in the 2nd half of the year although he is a good player
Slater - Form slump and was dropped to the 2's

None of this was done with B grade finals in mind. Best 22 was picked each week as we were trying to win as many games as possible to avoid relegation. B grade success means very little in comparison to the A grade being relegated for the first time in over 10 years

Okay we believe you not! After 12 games the HVFC A grade was 2W/10L with 4 to go -pretty daunting stats in relation to relegation, so

Fact 1. Tonkin played B grade 4th June with his next 7 games straight in A grade. Form slump to the B's for the last round = 7A + 7B - permit granted
Fact 2. Riddle played B grade 14th May with his next 8 games straight in A grade. Played last two rounds in B's = 8A + 8B - permit granted
Fact 3. Slater played 9 x A grade before playing only 7 B grade games in the 2nd half of the season - permit granted
Fact 4. Wood played 7 x A grade games, only 2 in C grade and played the last 2 in B's = 7A + 4B + 2C - permit granted.

As I previously stated I do not have an issue with it and seriously good luck to your guys for the rest of the final series.

[retired60]

Given HV lost to Salisbury by less than in goal in R17, the strategy you are suggesting, may have been a little foolish.

[Footy Chick]

We lost about 4 A grade games that I can think of by a goal or less

[Dols]

Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

Riddle - Tonkin - Wood - Slater not a bad group of players to have qualify for a B grade final.
As I said HV did nothing wrong & were too good for us on the day, no question & no sour grapes but the facts are the facts.

Riddle - U18 still developing played A's and B's
Tonkin - Lucky to even play B grade with his form
Wood - Has been playing C grade in the 2nd half of the year although he is a good player
Slater - Form slump and was dropped to the 2's

None of this was done with B grade finals in mind. Best 22 was picked each week as we were trying to win as many games as possible to avoid relegation. B grade success means very little in comparison to the A grade being relegated for the first time in over 10 years

Okay we believe you not! After 12 games the HVFC A grade was 2W/10L with 4 to go -pretty daunting stats in relation to relegation, so

Fact 1. Tonkin played B grade 4th June with his next 7 games straight in A grade. Form slump to the B's for the last round = 7A + 7B - permit granted
Fact 2. Riddle played B grade 14th May with his next 8 games straight in A grade. Played last two rounds in B's = 8A + 8B - permit granted
Fact 3. Slater played 9 x A grade before playing only 7 B grade games in the 2nd half of the season - permit granted
Fact 4. Wood played 7 x A grade games, only 2 in C grade and played the last 2 in B's = 7A + 4B + 2C - permit granted.

As I previously stated I do not have an issue with it and seriously good luck to your guys for the rest of the final series.

that is pretty damming.


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[S Demon]

Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

Riddle - Tonkin - Wood - Slater not a bad group of players to have qualify for a B grade final.
As I said HV did nothing wrong & were too good for us on the day, no question & no sour grapes but the facts are the facts.

Riddle - U18 still developing played A's and B's
Tonkin - Lucky to even play B grade with his form
Wood - Has been playing C grade in the 2nd half of the year although he is a good player
Slater - Form slump and was dropped to the 2's

None of this was done with B grade finals in mind. Best 22 was picked each week as we were trying to win as many games as possible to avoid relegation. B grade success means very little in comparison to the A grade being relegated for the first time in over 10 years

Okay we believe you not! After 12 games the HVFC A grade was 2W/10L with 4 to go -pretty daunting stats in relation to relegation, so

Fact 1. Tonkin played B grade 4th June with his next 7 games straight in A grade. Form slump to the B's for the last round = 7A + 7B - permit granted
Fact 2. Riddle played B grade 14th May with his next 8 games straight in A grade. Played last two rounds in B's = 8A + 8B - permit granted
Fact 3. Slater played 9 x A grade before playing only 7 B grade games in the 2nd half of the season - permit granted
Fact 4. Wood played 7 x A grade games, only 2 in C grade and played the last 2 in B's = 7A + 4B + 2C - permit granted.

As I previously stated I do not have an issue with it and seriously good luck to your guys for the rest of the final series.

I can see by all your research that you clearly don't have an issue with it...