Port Rezoning

[Aerie]

Did I read somewhere by the next time these zones are reviewed they'll have access to participation rates?

It could be argued true west and true east of the city the participation rates of kids playing Aussie Rules is higher than further south/further north where other sports such as soccer are possibly more dominant.

Therefore a team such as Central or South need more kids in their area than some others. Whereas there would be high percentages of teenage boys playing footy in suburbs such as Henley and Grange.

An interesting map here showing where the majority of Aussie immigrants were born in each suburb of Adelaide:
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/map/where-au ... n-adelaide

[Pag]

Aren't country zones done by the country footy leagues, not necessarily the area? So the CDFC have the BL&GFA, meaning Gawler will always be considered country until that league disbands? Same as South have the GSFL, Eagles have the APFL & YPFL etc?

[The Patriach]

Aren't country zones done by the country footy leagues, not necessarily the area? So the CDFC have the BL&GFA, meaning Gawler will always be considered country until that league disbands? Same as South have the GSFL, Eagles have the APFL & YPFL etc?

Correct mate. Country zones are determined by the country football leagues and their clubs, not by towns/geographics.

For example, if a lad lived in Mt. Gambier (Glenelg Zone) and players for East Gambier (Glenelg Zone), he is 'zoned' to Glenelg.

However, if a lad lives in Kadina (YPFL Eagles Zone) BUT plays for Broughton-Mundoora (NAFA North Zone) he will be zoned to North Adelaide and NOT Woodville - West Torrens. Very interesting.

[bennymacca]

Aren't country zones done by the country footy leagues, not necessarily the area? So the CDFC have the BL&GFA, meaning Gawler will always be considered country until that league disbands? Same as South have the GSFL, Eagles have the APFL & YPFL etc?

This. Gawler is pretty much metro now, but still part of a country league so should be considered country.

[The Patriach]

Aren't country zones done by the country footy leagues, not necessarily the area? So the CDFC have the BL&GFA, meaning Gawler will always be considered country until that league disbands? Same as South have the GSFL, Eagles have the APFL & YPFL etc?

This. Gawler is pretty much metro now, but still part of a country league so should be considered country.

True. But as I've said above, unlike the metro area, if a young lad lives in Gawler but PLAYS at Two Wells or Mallala he will be zoned to the Eagles and NOT Centrals. This is different to the metro zone where the club you are zoned to is based on home address and not club you play for (i.e. you can play at Salisbury and live in Elizabeth and be zoned to Centrals and not be zoned to Port/Eagles as it is now)

[Pseudo]

I don't think Gawler should be considered metropolitan at least until Elizabeth first earns that title....

[Booney]

I don't think Gawler should be considered metropolitan at least until Elizabeth first earns that title....

It's a metropolitan suburb, just not a pure metropolitan suburb, is that what you're saying?

[SANFLnut]

Aren't country zones done by the country footy leagues, not necessarily the area? So the CDFC have the BL&GFA, meaning Gawler will always be considered country until that league disbands? Same as South have the GSFL, Eagles have the APFL & YPFL etc?

Correct mate. Country zones are determined by the country football leagues and their clubs, not by towns/geographics.

For example, if a lad lived in Mt. Gambier (Glenelg Zone) and players for East Gambier (Glenelg Zone), he is 'zoned' to Glenelg.

However, if a lad lives in Kadina (YPFL Eagles Zone) BUT plays for Broughton-Mundoora (NAFA North Zone) he will be zoned to North Adelaide and NOT Woodville - West Torrens. Very interesting.

100% incorrect. Alignment of a junior player to an SANFL club is based on his mother's address on the electoral roll. Which club he plays for, where he goes to school etc. has no bearing on this at all. If dad or someone else has sole custody etc. then there is provision for a stat dec to be filed in order to get a variation from that.

Clubs that have metro/country zones that meet, such as Centrals, South, Sturt, Norwood have been allowed some flexibility in allocating these players to metro or country teams at U15 level, but only because they are already zoned to club. The official cut off for metro/country is same as for SA govt. (Willunga to Gawler?). There is a distinct line though.

[The Patriach]

Aren't country zones done by the country footy leagues, not necessarily the area? So the CDFC have the BL&GFA, meaning Gawler will always be considered country until that league disbands? Same as South have the GSFL, Eagles have the APFL & YPFL etc?

Correct mate. Country zones are determined by the country football leagues and their clubs, not by towns/geographics.

For example, if a lad lived in Mt. Gambier (Glenelg Zone) and players for East Gambier (Glenelg Zone), he is 'zoned' to Glenelg.

However, if a lad lives in Kadina (YPFL Eagles Zone) BUT plays for Broughton-Mundoora (NAFA North Zone) he will be zoned to North Adelaide and NOT Woodville - West Torrens. Very interesting.

100% incorrect. Alignment of a junior player to an SANFL club is based on his mother's address on the electoral roll. Which club he plays for, where he goes to school etc. has no bearing on this at all. If dad or someone else has sole custody etc. then there is provision for a stat dec to be filed in order to get a variation from that.

Clubs that have metro/country zones that meet, such as Centrals, South, Sturt, Norwood have been allowed some flexibility in allocating these players to metro or country teams at U15 level, but only because they are already zoned to club. The official cut off for metro/country is same as for SA govt. (Willunga to Gawler?). There is a distinct line though.

Incorrect mate - what you've said is ONLY correct for the metropolitan area and not the country regions of the state.

For example, the Menzel boys played for Centrals because they lived in Centrals zone rather than being recruited to Norwood where their junior club (Golden Grove) was zoned to at the time.

That doesn't happen in the country.

[JK]

So what would happen with school boarders?

Let's say Jimmy comes down from Port Pirie to board at PAC, plays school footy for them, but club footy for Payenham/NU .. Which SANFL club is he aligned to, North or Norwood?

[stan]

So what would happen with school boarders?

Let's say Jimmy comes down from Port Pirie to board at PAC, plays school footy for them, but club footy for Payenham/NU .. Which SANFL club is he aligned to, North or Norwood?

Always comes back to where you live doesnt it. That would technically be Port Pirie would it not?
I'm not an expert just trying to run thorugh the logic.

[heater31]

So what would happen with school boarders?

Let's say Jimmy comes down from Port Pirie to board at PAC, plays school footy for them, but club footy for Payenham/NU .. Which SANFL club is he aligned to, North or Norwood?

North get him when PAC don't need him....

[JK]

So what would happen with school boarders?

Let's say Jimmy comes down from Port Pirie to board at PAC, plays school footy for them, but club footy for Payenham/NU .. Which SANFL club is he aligned to, North or Norwood?

Always comes back to where you live doesnt it. That would technically be Port Pirie would it not?
I'm not an expert just trying to run thorugh the logic.

That's what I would have thought, but The Pat's previous post (with the Gambier example) made me wonder.

[The Patriach]

So what would happen with school boarders?

Let's say Jimmy comes down from Port Pirie to board at PAC, plays school footy for them, but club footy for Payenham/NU .. Which SANFL club is he aligned to, North or Norwood?

Always comes back to where you live doesnt it. That would technically be Port Pirie would it not?
I'm not an expert just trying to run thorugh the logic.

That's what I would have thought, but The Pat's previous post (with the Gambier example) made me wonder.

Boarding school is a completely different, unrelated but similarly complicated beast. From my understanding and previous experience, most lads have already represented a country club BEFORE they come and board, in which case they represent the zone of the club they initially played for (their country club)

This has happened with a heap of the YP kids going to private boarding schools in Sturt/Norwood zones and still being zoned to the Eagles. Playing club footy down there is usually organised by SANFL clubs (i.e. North send a few country kids to Broadview to play if they're not getting a game at North)

[Wedgie]

gawler is surely no longer considered a country town. its a suburb, no matter what people living in gawler will tell you. it is considered "metro" by the government at least

however i really dont care what it is considered as for the purposes of sanfl boundaries, i just find it funny when people try to claim it as "country"

I don't consider anything north of grand junction rd metropolitan!

[daysofourlives]

Aren't country zones done by the country footy leagues, not necessarily the area? So the CDFC have the BL&GFA, meaning Gawler will always be considered country until that league disbands? Same as South have the GSFL, Eagles have the APFL & YPFL etc?

Correct mate. Country zones are determined by the country football leagues and their clubs, not by towns/geographics.

For example, if a lad lived in Mt. Gambier (Glenelg Zone) and players for East Gambier (Glenelg Zone), he is 'zoned' to Glenelg.

However, if a lad lives in Kadina (YPFL Eagles Zone) BUT plays for Broughton-Mundoora (NAFA North Zone) he will be zoned to North Adelaide and NOT Woodville - West Torrens. Very interesting.

100% incorrect. Alignment of a junior player to an SANFL club is based on his mother's address on the electoral roll. Which club he plays for, where he goes to school etc. has no bearing on this at all. If dad or someone else has sole custody etc. then there is provision for a stat dec to be filed in order to get a variation from that.

Clubs that have metro/country zones that meet, such as Centrals, South, Sturt, Norwood have been allowed some flexibility in allocating these players to metro or country teams at U15 level, but only because they are already zoned to club. The official cut off for metro/country is same as for SA govt. (Willunga to Gawler?). There is a distinct line though.

Incorrect mate - what you've said is ONLY correct for the metropolitan area and not the country regions of the state.

For example, the Menzel boys played for Centrals because they lived in Centrals zone rather than being recruited to Norwood where their junior club (Golden Grove) was zoned to at the time.

That doesn't happen in the country.

Patriach, if you are right when did this change?
there has been numerous RSMU players over recent times either tied to Centrals or the Eagles depending on which side of the main st they live on. Vater, Mullins Centrals, Heir , Vandeleur Eagles

[smac]

He's not right. The recently released boundaries have lines on maps for country and metro zones.

[Look Good In Leather]

Aren't country zones done by the country footy leagues, not necessarily the area? So the CDFC have the BL&GFA, meaning Gawler will always be considered country until that league disbands? Same as South have the GSFL, Eagles have the APFL & YPFL etc?

Correct mate. Country zones are determined by the country football leagues and their clubs, not by towns/geographics.

For example, if a lad lived in Mt. Gambier (Glenelg Zone) and players for East Gambier (Glenelg Zone), he is 'zoned' to Glenelg.

However, if a lad lives in Kadina (YPFL Eagles Zone) BUT plays for Broughton-Mundoora (NAFA North Zone) he will be zoned to North Adelaide and NOT Woodville - West Torrens. Very interesting.

The Southern League is still classified a country league. Does this mean Brighton and Edwardstown are considered part of their relative League club's country zone?

[daysofourlives]

He's not right. The recently released boundaries have lines on maps for country and metro zones.

Oh really, who wouldve thought The Patriach could be wrong.

[PhilH]

So how did Cam Ellis-Yolmen who lived in the Eagles zone but played for Crystal Brook (North Zone club) end up allocated to the Eagles?