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Maybe he committed war crimes. Let a court decide.
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Spargo wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Must be a lot of damming evidence
if they are what i read, they are.

Is it true several of his squad members testified against him?
I read somewhere it was more than several
Obviously pissed a lot of his colleagues off
Jealous colleagues?
I guess that’s what the court will need to decide on
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its the most ridiculous thing ive heard and the fact its still going is just a joke
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If he ordered subordinates to kill unarmed people as suggested, he gets what he deserves
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IF unarmed people were shot dead and they were members of the Taliban, well then I’m afraid you’ll have to excuse my complete lack of sympathy.
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Spargo wrote:IF unarmed people were shot dead and they were members of the Taliban, well then I’m afraid you’ll have to excuse my complete lack of sympathy.
A crime is a crime, isn't it?
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Booney wrote:
Spargo wrote:IF unarmed people were shot dead and they were members of the Taliban, well then I’m afraid you’ll have to excuse my complete lack of sympathy.
A crime is a crime, isn't it?
From what I've read, No, not in this case.
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Its certainly going to be an interesting case to follow, just not sure how they will go proving it all beyond reasonable doubt.
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I don't have any to say about the specific allegations in this case, as they're before the courts and it seems to me that no-one who isn't directly involved would be informed enough to have much worth saying about them.

However, speaking generally, I push back strongly on the notion that Australians cannot commit war crimes, or should not be held accountable where there is evidence they may have committed a war crime.

My view is that there is not a single institution on earth that is not strengthened by scrutiny or accountability. The armed forces are no exception to that.

Australia has a highly capable and professional military. This is for many reasons, including that we follow the rules of war and don't accept what other countries may be willing to accept.

What I think some people fail to understand is that by holding our soldiers (and their commanders) to appropriate standards, we strengthen - rather than weaken - our ability to defend ourselves and our interests.

In the (exceedingly rare) event that war crimes are committed by Australia, it is entirely consistent with our short- and long-term defence objectives to investigate thoroughly and take appropriate action (as we would insist upon where war crimes are committed against Australians). Not to mention notions of honour and integrity which are and should be the cornerstones of Australian military conduct.

It's also quite obvious that building and maintaining trust with locals, where Australian soldiers are deployed overseas, which unfortunately may be the case again in the future, is crucial for mission success.

Taking this stuff seriously always has and will continue to help our boys on the frontline.
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I deal with a lot of ADF folk regularly and they overwhelmingly support Ben but whether that support wanes if he is found guilty is another matter.
The ones I spoke to today were appalled at his treatment by the media yesterday
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Jim05 wrote:I deal with a lot of ADF folk regularly and they overwhelmingly support Ben but whether that support wanes if he is found guilty is another matter.
The ones I spoke to today were appalled at his treatment by the media yesterday
And the AFP
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Jimmy_041 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:I deal with a lot of ADF folk regularly and they overwhelmingly support Ben but whether that support wanes if he is found guilty is another matter.
The ones I spoke to today were appalled at his treatment by the media yesterday
And the AFP
Yes, that too.

The whole dramatic take down at an airport was a disgrace.
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I have no view if he is guilty/not guilty, none of us would know and If he is found guilty then he absolutely deserves everything he will get, but I really struggle to see the pathway to that guilt.

What Im not looking forward to is all the media articles that will appear on a daily basis from now until the trial.
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Are Dane Swan, Carey and LM moving at all today?
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Brodlach wrote:Are Dane Sean, Carey and LM moving at all today?
I got to work a bit late, had to attend our 9am management meeting via teams.

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Is anyone subscribed to CodeSports is it worth it?
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Armchair expert wrote:Is anyone subscribed to CodeSports is it worth it?
A lot of the articles will appear on News Ltd sites, if you subscribe there, I wouldn't bother.

I would like to know why Code Sports doesn't count under a News Ltd subscription, when it's clearly the same thing
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wenchbarwer wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Is anyone subscribed to CodeSports is it worth it?
A lot of the articles will appear on News Ltd sites, if you subscribe there, I wouldn't bother.

I would like to know why Code Sports doesn't count under a News Ltd subscription, when it's clearly the same thing
Yeah, I see a lot of articles pop up that I wouldn't mind reading but can't log in.
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Lightning McQueen wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Is anyone subscribed to CodeSports is it worth it?
A lot of the articles will appear on News Ltd sites, if you subscribe there, I wouldn't bother.

I would like to know why Code Sports doesn't count under a News Ltd subscription, when it's clearly the same thing
Yeah, I see a lot of articles pop up that I wouldn't mind reading but can't log in.

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How much money is enough for Gina Rinehart?

There can never be enough, apparently.

Stiffing your own kids, Dad’s business partners and anyone else is par for the course in Gina’s world.
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