Arch44 wrote:Bit different to the old days now isn't it?! I remember playing u/9s at Wingfield when it was freezing and we were given a shot of port out of a hip flask at quarter time to warm us up!! I don't condone that at all by the way, and agree with Zartan.
Chuck some trackies and a long sleeve on the little buggers and let them run around in the mud.
A few weeks back, our kids were freezing out at Greenwith and despite telling them to run around, they don't get (at under 7's) that running keeps you warm. They just stood there and froze. There is zero point playing games in July when it's raining/windy, all it does is just put kids off the game completely.
I'd like to have a chat to that coach at GG U9's and find out what makes him tick.
Saw that Beef but there was a draft that was going around about 2017.
The key changes for us (Modbury) are;
9 a side, down from 15, (squad size of 12 vs 24) No U6's, U7's in 2017
We've had 6 registered teams in U6's and U7's in previous years so we fear losing them and a raft of others to other sports next year. We had 50 at Auskick this year so there would be no reason to assume we wouldn't have 3 U6 and 3 U7's going into 2017 as well.
gadj1976 wrote: There is zero point playing games in July when it's raining/windy, all it does is just put kids off the game completely.
k.
Take extreme conditions out of I'm about to say because obviously that's understandable as hypothermia is a consequence in such young kiddies..
But PLEASE. When do you propose play football? How will this prepare them for when they're older? If you call of every game that has a sprinkling of rain or a bit of wind, there goes footy being a winter sport for the next generation.
Or shall we just make it an indoor sport? I know, stick them in front of the telly and put on AFL on XBox...that's the same, right?
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If they get rid of U/6's and U/7's couldn't clubs just run their own competition for those age groups internally?
Make it 6 a side, 9 a side, whatever you want. Cancel games when it's pissing with rain. Split your main oval up into 2-3 smaller ovals and play it like a carnival each week. No travel!
Mix the teams around as the season goes on so the kids/parents get to know the whole age group and get a chance to experience success.
Keep score, have premiership tables, finals, tackling(?!)... all the fun stuff.
Modbury Blue vs Modbury Green... Modbury Red vs Modbury Yellow...
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gadj1976 wrote: There is zero point playing games in July when it's raining/windy, all it does is just put kids off the game completely.
k.
Take extreme conditions out of I'm about to say because obviously that's understandable as hypothermia is a consequence in such young kiddies..
But PLEASE. When do you propose play football? How will this prepare them for when they're older? If you call of every game that has a sprinkling of rain or a bit of wind, there goes footy being a winter sport for the next generation.
Or shall we just make it an indoor sport? I know, stick them in front of the telly and put on AFL on XBox...that's the same, right?
Obviously I'm talking about those conditions. I was talking specifically about Friday night and Sunday morning of this weekend when games were or should've been called off.
You also have to remember that in U6's thru to U8's they play in zones so they can't even chase after the footy to keep warm. They basically just stand there and wait for it to enter their zone. Apparently we had a kid - when the ball wasn't in their zone, go and sit in the shelter at Fitzroy on Friday night, then run back on when the ball came into his zone.
I've goal umpired in those conditions and screamed at our kids, who are turning blue to run to keep warm and they literally just stand there and freeze.
Tony Clifton wrote:If they get rid of U/6's and U/7's couldn't clubs just run their own competition for those age groups internally?
Make it 6 a side, 9 a side, whatever you want. Cancel games when it's pissing with rain. Split your main oval up into 2-3 smaller ovals and play it like a carnival each week. No travel!
Mix the teams around as the season goes on so the kids/parents get to know the whole age group and get a chance to experience success.
Keep score, have premiership tables, finals, tackling(?!)... all the fun stuff.
Modbury Blue vs Modbury Green... Modbury Red vs Modbury Yellow...
But we lose massive amounts of income firstly and secondly, that doesn't satisfy the kids. We have a group of U6's who will go from a properly organised comp, to internal trials (essentially).
Err, Auskick won't allow any of the 'fun stuff' to occur. That's exactly the reason why the SANFL are stopping 6's and 7's from playing - from what I can gather.
Tony Clifton wrote:If they get rid of U/6's and U/7's couldn't clubs just run their own competition for those age groups internally?
Make it 6 a side, 9 a side, whatever you want. Cancel games when it's pissing with rain. Split your main oval up into 2-3 smaller ovals and play it like a carnival each week. No travel!
Mix the teams around as the season goes on so the kids/parents get to know the whole age group and get a chance to experience success.
Keep score, have premiership tables, finals, tackling(?!)... all the fun stuff.
Modbury Blue vs Modbury Green... Modbury Red vs Modbury Yellow...
But we lose massive amounts of income firstly and secondly, that doesn't satisfy the kids. We have a group of U6's who will go from a properly organised comp, to internal trials (essentially).
Err, Auskick won't allow any of the 'fun stuff' to occur. That's exactly the reason why the SANFL are stopping 6's and 7's from playing - from what I can gather.
How would you lose income? Same number of kids, not having to pay affiliation team fees or for umpires, home each week for bar/bbq revenue. You'd gain revenue if anything.
You'd have one year level of Under 6's who would go from an organised competition to an internal one. I doubt they'd care to be honest and after one year the kids won't know any different. Plus it doesn't sound as though there is going to be an organised competition for them anyway.
Auskick does ban all that fun stuff but if you're doing your own thing then the Auskick rules don't apply.
Actually imagine that a club who runs this stuff instead of whatever watered down equivalent Auskick are dishing up would attract players/parents.
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gadj1976 wrote: There is zero point playing games in July when it's raining/windy, all it does is just put kids off the game completely.
k.
Take extreme conditions out of I'm about to say because obviously that's understandable as hypothermia is a consequence in such young kiddies..
But PLEASE. When do you propose play football? How will this prepare them for when they're older? If you call of every game that has a sprinkling of rain or a bit of wind, there goes footy being a winter sport for the next generation.
Or shall we just make it an indoor sport? I know, stick them in front of the telly and put on AFL on XBox...that's the same, right?
Obviously I'm talking about those conditions. I was talking specifically about Friday night and Sunday morning of this weekend when games were or should've been called off.
You also have to remember that in U6's thru to U8's they play in zones so they can't even chase after the footy to keep warm. They basically just stand there and wait for it to enter their zone. Apparently we had a kid - when the ball wasn't in their zone, go and sit in the shelter at Fitzroy on Friday night, then run back on when the ball came into his zone.
I've goal umpired in those conditions and screamed at our kids, who are turning blue to run to keep warm and they literally just stand there and freeze.
There has to be a better way then, maybe ausickers should have a modified season that runs for 8 weeks in April and May (I'm not sure how many rounds they currently play).
But i agree that the kiddies shouldn't be turning blue just so they might get one touch of a footy over an hour
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Tony Clifton wrote:If they get rid of U/6's and U/7's couldn't clubs just run their own competition for those age groups internally?
Make it 6 a side, 9 a side, whatever you want. Cancel games when it's pissing with rain. Split your main oval up into 2-3 smaller ovals and play it like a carnival each week. No travel!
Mix the teams around as the season goes on so the kids/parents get to know the whole age group and get a chance to experience success.
Keep score, have premiership tables, finals, tackling(?!)... all the fun stuff.
Modbury Blue vs Modbury Green... Modbury Red vs Modbury Yellow...
But we lose massive amounts of income firstly and secondly, that doesn't satisfy the kids. We have a group of U6's who will go from a properly organised comp, to internal trials (essentially).
Err, Auskick won't allow any of the 'fun stuff' to occur. That's exactly the reason why the SANFL are stopping 6's and 7's from playing - from what I can gather.
How would you lose income? Same number of kids, not having to pay affiliation team fees or for umpires, home each week for bar/bbq revenue. You'd gain revenue if anything.
You'd have one year level of Under 6's who would go from an organised competition to an internal one. I doubt they'd care to be honest and after one year the kids won't know any different. Plus it doesn't sound as though there is going to be an organised competition for them anyway.
Auskick does ban all that fun stuff but if you're doing your own thing then the Auskick rules don't apply.
Actually imagine that a club who runs this stuff instead of whatever watered down equivalent Auskick are dishing up would attract players/parents.
To answer in part. 6 sides of 15 kids at 130 bucks vs all income going to Auskick. We have enough teams to do a bbq every week despite home and aways.
gadj1976 wrote:To answer in part. 6 sides of 15 kids at 130 bucks vs all income going to Auskick. We have enough teams to do a bbq every week despite home and aways.
I'm not suggesting that the club does Auskick
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gadj1976 wrote:To answer in part. 6 sides of 15 kids at 130 bucks vs all income going to Auskick. We have enough teams to do a bbq every week despite home and aways.
Tony Clifton wrote:If they get rid of U/6's and U/7's couldn't clubs just run their own competition for those age groups internally?
Make it 6 a side, 9 a side, whatever you want. Cancel games when it's pissing with rain. Split your main oval up into 2-3 smaller ovals and play it like a carnival each week. No travel!
Mix the teams around as the season goes on so the kids/parents get to know the whole age group and get a chance to experience success.
Keep score, have premiership tables, finals, tackling(?!)... all the fun stuff.
Modbury Blue vs Modbury Green... Modbury Red vs Modbury Yellow...
But we lose massive amounts of income firstly and secondly, that doesn't satisfy the kids. We have a group of U6's who will go from a properly organised comp, to internal trials (essentially).
Err, Auskick won't allow any of the 'fun stuff' to occur. That's exactly the reason why the SANFL are stopping 6's and 7's from playing - from what I can gather.
How would you lose income? Same number of kids, not having to pay affiliation team fees or for umpires, home each week for bar/bbq revenue. You'd gain revenue if anything.
You'd have one year level of Under 6's who would go from an organised competition to an internal one. I doubt they'd care to be honest and after one year the kids won't know any different. Plus it doesn't sound as though there is going to be an organised competition for them anyway.
Auskick does ban all that fun stuff but if you're doing your own thing then the Auskick rules don't apply.
Actually imagine that a club who runs this stuff instead of whatever watered down equivalent Auskick are dishing up would attract players/parents.
Insurance tends to be the reason against these things. If little Johnny gets a spinal injury, bye bye club + the assets of the board members
Arch44 wrote:Bit different to the old days now isn't it?! I remember playing u/9s at Wingfield when it was freezing and we were given a shot of port out of a hip flask at quarter time to warm us up!! I don't condone that at all by the way, and agree with Zartan.
Chuck some trackies and a long sleeve on the little buggers and let them run around in the mud.
A few weeks back, our kids were freezing out at Greenwith and despite telling them to run around, they don't get (at under 7's) that running keeps you warm. They just stood there and froze. There is zero point playing games in July when it's raining/windy, all it does is just put kids off the game completely.
I'd like to have a chat to that coach at GG U9's and find out what makes him tick.
Not sure which coach this was as its first I heard of it, I coach under 10s and we played another GG side a 10:40 and there was an under 9s game on the top oval at the same time. Both games were called off by coaches at quarter time - I was more than happy to pull the pin at that point - it was actually hailing and that much rain that it wasnt draining off so there was just a massive puddle.
I would hazard to say that the club would have a chat with the coach you mentioned if all went on, its not how we would normally behave.
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Look Good In Leather wrote:Insurance tends to be the reason against these things. If little Johnny gets a spinal injury, bye bye club + the assets of the board members
Clubs can still insure their players
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Look Good In Leather wrote:Insurance tends to be the reason against these things. If little Johnny gets a spinal injury, bye bye club + the assets of the board members
Clubs can still insure their players
Would have thought it would fall under the affiliated club insurance?
I know for cricket, some Premier Cricket Clubs run academies that don't play any matches yet are still covered by the Club's insurance policy.
