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can't believe I'm about to say this, but there is a proposed policy of this government that I actually agree with, and that is finding a way to charge the GST on electronic purchases.

Seems like a no brainer and a significant source of revenue. And it is something that should have been charged all along, just that it was in the too hard basket.

It will suck for me given i do a lot of my shopping online from places like eBay and amazon, but I think its fair
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Q. wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Dr Karl is backing away from his Intergenerational Report videos.

I just assumed that he voted Libs when I heard them


Sounds like he's been hoodwinked.


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He was convinced that the report would be independent and non political. Turns out it's very political
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RustyCage wrote:He was convinced that the report would be independent and non political. Turns out it's very political

Probably should have read it then.
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stan wrote:
RustyCage wrote:He was convinced that the report would be independent and non political. Turns out it's very political

Probably should have read it then.


most of it was under embargo
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stan wrote:This will be qn interesting budget. The IMF have predicted some tough times ahead for the glonal economy. With China starting to slow and there growth looking at dipping under the 7% mark it seems to be the catalyst now for a drop in iron ore prices. This will hurt our mining sector. This will really hurt.

Basically we nees to reduce the government's expenditure without killing off our own economic growth. Good luck with that!

Just to quote myself but it seems our Treasurer has also said the same thing. He will bring the budget back to surplus without hurting the economy.

Although these are obviously my thoughts as well, im not sure schools and hospitals are the first place he should be looking for savings.
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Jimmy_041 wrote:
Q. wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Dr Karl is backing away from his Intergenerational Report videos.

I just assumed that he voted Libs when I heard them


Sounds like he's been hoodwinked.


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Sounds like you have been reading different Twitter tweets to me. He was praised for taking the stand he has by most Labor tweeters. Even more so that he has decided to give his pay to charity. Once it was known that the LNP varied the document after Dr Karl made his advertisements, he was supported in his actions. As with Dr, Karl, no one expected the LNP to doctor a supposedly non-political document.

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stan wrote:
stan wrote:This will be qn interesting budget. The IMF have predicted some tough times ahead for the glonal economy. With China starting to slow and there growth looking at dipping under the 7% mark it seems to be the catalyst now for a drop in iron ore prices. This will hurt our mining sector. This will really hurt.

Basically we nees to reduce the government's expenditure without killing off our own economic growth. Good luck with that!

Just to quote myself but it seems our Treasurer has also said the same thing. He will bring the budget back to surplus without hurting the economy.

Although these are obviously my thoughts as well, im not sure schools and hospitals are the first place he should be looking for savings.


Agreed re schools and hospitals not being the areas that should be cut.
Interesting that Joe has now stated he doesn't expect any surplus in the next decade. All this coming from a government that promised a surplus in their first year, then in their first term....
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bennymacca wrote:can't believe I'm about to say this, but there is a proposed policy of this government that I actually agree with, and that is finding a way to charge the GST on electronic purchases.

Seems like a no brainer and a significant source of revenue. And it is something that should have been charged all along, just that it was in the too hard basket.

It will suck for me given i do a lot of my shopping online from places like eBay and amazon, but I think its fair


GST is already charged on electronic purchases. All purchases that are from an Australian seller attract the 10% rate, just like if they were purchased at a shop. If they come from overseas, then GST is charged as normal if the good has a value of $1000 or more. As with all other imports, if they have a value of less than $1000, no GST is charged.

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bulldogproud2 wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Q. wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Dr Karl is backing away from his Intergenerational Report videos.

I just assumed that he voted Libs when I heard them


Sounds like he's been hoodwinked.


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He's been copping it big time on twitter from left wing ferals
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Sounds like you have been reading different Twitter tweets to me. He was praised for taking the stand he has by most Labor tweeters. Even more so that he has decided to give his pay to charity. Once it was known that the LNP varied the document after Dr Karl made his advertisements, he was supported in his actions. As with Dr, Karl, no one expected the LNP to doctor a supposedly non-political document.

Cheers


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bulldogproud2 wrote:
stan wrote:
stan wrote:This will be qn interesting budget. The IMF have predicted some tough times ahead for the glonal economy. With China starting to slow and there growth looking at dipping under the 7% mark it seems to be the catalyst now for a drop in iron ore prices. This will hurt our mining sector. This will really hurt.

Basically we nees to reduce the government's expenditure without killing off our own economic growth. Good luck with that!

Just to quote myself but it seems our Treasurer has also said the same thing. He will bring the budget back to surplus without hurting the economy.

Although these are obviously my thoughts as well, im not sure schools and hospitals are the first place he should be looking for savings.


Agreed re schools and hospitals not being the areas that should be cut.
Interesting that Joe has now stated he doesn't expect any surplus in the next decade. All this coming from a government that promised a surplus in their first year, then in their first term....

In fairness that was on the back of some pretty drastic saving measures that went ass up pretty quick.

Pyne just wrote and article for he Australian abouy how he is going to improve the education system. I agree with what he has proposed and believe it will improve the system. However with a reduction in funding he'll be struggling to keep the current level let alone making improvements.
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you think making people get loans that they will have for the rest of their lives will help the education system and society as a whole?

I am into my 8th year of a relatively well paying engineering job and i still havent paid off my HECs debt. Now imagine if my HECs was triple the amount, and indexed at something other than inflation. Would probably mean i wouldnt be able to afford a house as i would have my student loans to pay off instead.
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bennymacca wrote:you think making people get loans that they will have for the rest of their lives will help the education system and society as a whole?

I am into my 8th year of a relatively well paying engineering job and i still havent paid off my HECs debt. Now imagine if my HECs was triple the amount, and indexed at something other than inflation. Would probably mean i wouldnt be able to afford a house as i would have my student loans to pay off instead.

Surely you must be close? I looked it up the other day but a job paying around $70k takes out about $75 per week out for it. About $55 per week if you are on $60k.
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bennymacca wrote:you think making people get loans that they will have for the rest of their lives will help the education system and society as a whole?

I am into my 8th year of a relatively well paying engineering job and i still havent paid off my HECs debt. Now imagine if my HECs was triple the amount, and indexed at something other than inflation. Would probably mean i wouldnt be able to afford a house as i would have my student loans to pay off instead.

Talking about primary and secondary schools and the 4 pillars ideas that were proposed.

Higher education wasnt in that article.
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heater31 wrote:
bennymacca wrote:you think making people get loans that they will have for the rest of their lives will help the education system and society as a whole?

I am into my 8th year of a relatively well paying engineering job and i still havent paid off my HECs debt. Now imagine if my HECs was triple the amount, and indexed at something other than inflation. Would probably mean i wouldnt be able to afford a house as i would have my student loans to pay off instead.

Surely you must be close? I looked it up the other day but a job paying around $70k takes out about $75 per week out for it. About $55 per week if you are on $60k.


They take out around $200 a fortnight for me. Reckon I have around 5k left to go I think. I did a 5 year degree and had around 33k in debt if I remember correctly.

Think it should be paid off by the end of the year.
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stan wrote:
bennymacca wrote:you think making people get loans that they will have for the rest of their lives will help the education system and society as a whole?

I am into my 8th year of a relatively well paying engineering job and i still havent paid off my HECs debt. Now imagine if my HECs was triple the amount, and indexed at something other than inflation. Would probably mean i wouldnt be able to afford a house as i would have my student loans to pay off instead.

Talking about primary and secondary schools and the 4 pillars ideas that were proposed.

Higher education wasnt in that article.


My apologies, just made the assumption. What are the proposed changes to primary and secondary schools? I haven't followed that part of it tbh
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bennymacca wrote:
stan wrote:
bennymacca wrote:you think making people get loans that they will have for the rest of their lives will help the education system and society as a whole?

I am into my 8th year of a relatively well paying engineering job and i still havent paid off my HECs debt. Now imagine if my HECs was triple the amount, and indexed at something other than inflation. Would probably mean i wouldnt be able to afford a house as i would have my student loans to pay off instead.

Talking about primary and secondary schools and the 4 pillars ideas that were proposed.

Higher education wasnt in that article.


My apologies, just made the assumption. What are the proposed changes to primary and secondary schools? I haven't followed that part of it tbh

Robust curriculum, teacher quality, school autonomy and parental engagement.

My point was I agree with these broad statements but without additional funds I can see it going well.
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That sounds like rhetoric to me. Doesn't everyone want that?
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bennymacca wrote:That sounds like rhetoric to me. Doesn't everyone want that?

Yeah pretty much and hence I would agree with it. Its my point which ties into an earlier post of mine about cuts to education in order to find savings in the budget.
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Just when I thought I couldn't hate him any more.....


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