Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

[The Big Shrek]

Gaza Sports & Community Club Inc v D Rosella?

Might want to join Griffin to that action. Who was he representing the club or the president? Seems like a conflict to me.

[The Big Shrek]

I hear the proposed fine a while ago was $100k. $50k suspended, $50k to be paid over 10 years. Seems a negotiated outcome was a better option than this rigmarole.

The problem with punishing clubs is who are you really punishing? Gaza isn't a person. Legally it is a entity and it's made up of its members and responsible for its executive's actions but I suspect the executives have moved on. All you really do is cripple a club who by in large are comprised of decent people who aren't morally culpable for what a few ding bats have done but dig in to keep the club going.

I'd be a bigger fan of prosecutions for the individuals that lied in stat decs and laying the blame at their door. I understood that to be the purpose of creating the procedure of signing the things.

I wouldn't mind seeing a few of the mercenary players copping half a year on the sidelines too. They were by in large complicit in it and with a couple of exceptions I reckon were happy to do it for their own benefit rather than the club's.

It seems to me the decent people at the club will put in the extra work over many years to sort this out. The rest move on away from Gaza. If I had the power I'd order the guilty ones empty the bins and clean the changerooms there for the next 10 years.

[blublurag]

The fines are there as a deterrent. If a club ignores the deterrent and then doesn't cop the fine what deterrent is there for others to be compliant.

Plenty of clubs being compliant and having to suffer the consequences of those not by missing out on recruits or losing players to overs being offered outside the cap. And then having to play against those clubs bolstered by their disregard for the rules. And then copping it from members saying why aren't we as good as that club down the road.

I have no sympathy for those who break the rules, especially to this extent.

[cracka]

I hear the proposed fine a while ago was $100k. $50k suspended, $50k to be paid over 10 years. Seems a negotiated outcome was a better option than this rigmarole.

The problem with punishing clubs is who are you really punishing? Gaza isn't a person. Legally it is a entity and it's made up of its members and responsible for its executive's actions but I suspect the executives have moved on. All you really do is cripple a club who by in large are comprised of decent people who aren't morally culpable for what a few ding bats have done but dig in to keep the club going.

I'd be a bigger fan of prosecutions for the individuals that lied in stat decs and laying the blame at their door. I understood that to be the purpose of creating the procedure of signing the things.

I wouldn't mind seeing a few of the mercenary players copping half a year on the sidelines too. They were by in large complicit in it and with a couple of exceptions I reckon were happy to do it for their own benefit rather than the club's.

It seems to me the decent people at the club will put in the extra work over many years to sort this out. The rest move on away from Gaza. If I had the power I'd order the guilty ones empty the bins and clean the changerooms there for the next 10 years.

Agreed

[wenchbarwer]

I hear the proposed fine a while ago was $100k. $50k suspended, $50k to be paid over 10 years. Seems a negotiated outcome was a better option than this rigmarole.

The problem with punishing clubs is who are you really punishing? Gaza isn't a person. Legally it is a entity and it's made up of its members and responsible for its executive's actions but I suspect the executives have moved on. All you really do is cripple a club who by in large are comprised of decent people who aren't morally culpable for what a few ding bats have done but dig in to keep the club going.

I'd be a bigger fan of prosecutions for the individuals that lied in stat decs and laying the blame at their door. I understood that to be the purpose of creating the procedure of signing the things.

I wouldn't mind seeing a few of the mercenary players copping half a year on the sidelines too. They were by in large complicit in it and with a couple of exceptions I reckon were happy to do it for their own benefit rather than the club's.

It seems to me the decent people at the club will put in the extra work over many years to sort this out. The rest move on away from Gaza. If I had the power I'd order the guilty ones empty the bins and clean the changerooms there for the next 10 years.

Heard it was a bit harsher than that. $100K over two years, 50K per year. Still less than what they were paying in their salary sombrero, anyway!

[MW]

I'm confused...
They were fined 300k, then that was cancelled, now they are guilty and will be fined?

[wenchbarwer]

I'm confused...
They were fined 300k, then that was cancelled, now they are guilty and will be fined?

I think because they dropped a few charges, so that original 300K+ fine doesn't stand. They got found guilty, new punishments are on the 20th of Feb.

My comment was the original option presented to them. "We know you did it, plead guilty, here's a 100K fine, pay it over 2 years."

[tigerpie]

Send them back to z division, minimal fine so the club can still survive. Halve their points allocation for 2 years.
If they introduced criminal convictions to presidents/boards would that stop all the shenanigans with player payments?
I mean are boards committing fraud by keeping two sets of books?
It wouldn't stop a sponsor from slipping a couple of hundred in your pocket after the game I know.

[wenchbarwer]

Send them back to z division, minimal fine so the club can still survive. Halve their points allocation for 2 years.
If they introduced criminal convictions to presidents/boards would that stop all the shenanigans with player payments?
I mean are boards committing fraud by keeping two sets of books?
It wouldn't stop a sponsor from slipping a couple of hundred in your pocket after the game I know.

You would also want to include coaches and whoever does the contracts in that lot

[Armchair expert]

Send them back to z division, minimal fine so the club can still survive. Halve their points allocation for 2 years.
If they introduced criminal convictions to presidents/boards would that stop all the shenanigans with player payments?
I mean are boards committing fraud by keeping two sets of books?
It wouldn't stop a sponsor from slipping a couple of hundred in your pocket after the game I know.

Exactly, the salary cap is easily worked around, ditch the cap and tighten the points system.

[jo172]

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenger/sport/sa-police-attend-gaza-football-club-after-meeting-turns-violent/news-story/5e116a7808cad734a9c16703c18ec93c

The Gaza Football Club salary cap scandal has taken yet another twist with police called to the club overnight.

SA Police attended the club at 7pm on Thursday after a meeting between three club members, including president Don Rosella, became heated.

The members were asked to leave the premises by police, which they did.

No arrests were made.

The altercation comes just a day after the club was found guilty by an independent SANFL tribunal on 223 counts of salary cap breaches through the 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2022 Adelaide Footy League seasons.

President Rosella was also found guilty by Justice Michael David, KC for involvement in breaches during 2021 and 2022.

At the hearing, Rosella and lawyer Greg Griffin claimed he caught wind of breaches before becoming president in 2020 and tried to stop them by removing the people involved.

“As a consequence of his (Rosella’s) hard line position, he was completely kept out of the loop by the football department and had nothing to do with the payments,” Mr Griffin said.

“Weak coaches and weak club officials sat back and let it happen.”

Mr Rosella faces a potential suspension of 10 years from holding an official role with any SANFL-affiliated club.

The club was originally fined $380,000 and could be docked player and premiership points ahead of next season.

However, Justice Michael David will make submissions on penalties which will be considered by a SANFL committee when the tribunal reconvenes on Tuesday, February 20, meaning lesser penalties may apply.

[jo172]

Send them back to z division, minimal fine so the club can still survive. Halve their points allocation for 2 years.
If they introduced criminal convictions to presidents/boards would that stop all the shenanigans with player payments?
I mean are boards committing fraud by keeping two sets of books?
It wouldn't stop a sponsor from slipping a couple of hundred in your pocket after the game I know.

You would also want to include coaches and whoever does the contracts in that lot

Anyone who swore a false stat dec is guilty of an offence with a maximum sentence of four years ...

[dedja]

[tigerpie]

Getting juicier by the day it seems.
So if Mr Rosella kicked out the people involved in 21 why/how did it continue without his knowledge?
Saying the footy department kept him out of the loop is fine when it comes to on field stuff but he's the Prez he sees the books.

[Pepsi]

some Intel on a food fight in the club rooms, apparently even a cabbage thrown out the door

[The Big Shrek]

I have heard a physical altercation between Rosella and either a, or more than one Radetti.

Rosella and Griffin need to answer some questions. Maybe they were asked some last night.

[Jimmy_041]

some Intel on a food fight in the club rooms, apparently even a cabbage thrown out the door

Any pizzas thrown around or doesn't he go there anymore?

[Footy Chick]

I have heard a physical altercation between Rosella and either a, or more than one Radetti.

Rosella and Griffin need to answer some questions. Maybe they were asked some last night.

I'd back in Radettis any day of the week.


A captain is supposed to go down with his ship.

This Rosella guy has jumped on the only life raft, cut the cord and is yelling every man for himself

[redyellow&blue]

Next General meeting should be held there...

[The Big Shrek]

New article from the Advertiser. Rosella has resigned. Better late than never.

Gaza should be getting new legal advice ASAP.