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Re: Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

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Dogwatcher wrote:How's Abbott's comments from London, though?
"It will be easy to support the re-election of the Turnbull Government as they're running all my policies."

He failed to mentioned that it'll also be easy to support the re-election of the Turnbull Government as it's no longer the Abbott Government.
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Booney wrote:
Magellan wrote:He could've been PM. Talk about dodging a bullet.


It would be hard to Trump that. ;)

But look out if Trump gets hold of a Ronald Raygun.
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Federal Libs based in SA are asking for a subs announcement before the election as they believe the SA electorate will bury them.
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stan wrote:Federal Libs based in SA are asking for a subs announcement before the election as they believe the SA electorate will bury them.


Will be interesting to see if Abbott takes credit for that being his policy

He's doing a Keating now. Trying to change history to make himself look better in future years
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Jimmy_041 wrote:
stan wrote:Federal Libs based in SA are asking for a subs announcement before the election as they believe the SA electorate will bury them.


Will be interesting to see if Abbott takes credit for that being his policy

He's doing a Keating now. Trying to change history to make himself look better in future years
You'd have to be 100% narcissistic to be a politician

Maybe so, but if they revert back and the ship building deal from Tony Abott comes back into play, well then hes not wrong then is he. I mean it was his policy that would likey keep some of his SA mates in there seats.

However, in saying that we are all assuming the worst with no information. In fact the no announcement deal feels strangly like putting contract talks off until the end of the season.
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stan wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
stan wrote:Federal Libs based in SA are asking for a subs announcement before the election as they believe the SA electorate will bury them.


Will be interesting to see if Abbott takes credit for that being his policy

He's doing a Keating now. Trying to change history to make himself look better in future years
You'd have to be 100% narcissistic to be a politician

Maybe so, but if they revert back and the ship building deal from Tony Abott comes back into play, well then hes not wrong then is he. I mean it was his policy that would likey keep some of his SA mates in there seats.

However, in saying that we are all assuming the worst with no information. In fact the no announcement deal feels strangly like putting contract talks off until the end of the season.


My mail is he was intending to give the subs to the Japs
You seriously have to question these people (all of them)
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Jimmy_041 wrote:
stan wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
stan wrote:Federal Libs based in SA are asking for a subs announcement before the election as they believe the SA electorate will bury them.


Will be interesting to see if Abbott takes credit for that being his policy

He's doing a Keating now. Trying to change history to make himself look better in future years
You'd have to be 100% narcissistic to be a politician

Maybe so, but if they revert back and the ship building deal from Tony Abott comes back into play, well then hes not wrong then is he. I mean it was his policy that would likey keep some of his SA mates in there seats.

However, in saying that we are all assuming the worst with no information. In fact the no announcement deal feels strangly like putting contract talks off until the end of the season.


My mail is he was intending to give the subs to the Japs
You seriously have to question these people (all of them)
Right at the bottom if the integrity ladder

No doubt, but I sort of mixed a few things there by accident. Tony Abbotts promise of the offshore patrol boats work was kne that the Turnball government went back on. Probably more important than the subs announcement on which we know is probably already done.

I still think the subs will go tk Japan but possibly some work will be done in SA.
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Turnbull’s plan for state income tax

PRIME Minister Malcolm Turnbull will propose a radical overhaul of Australia’s taxation system aimed at fixing the “failures” of federation when he meets with state and territory leaders this week.



Mr Turnbull said the “once-in-several generations” reform would allow the states to collect income tax as they scramble for extra funding for schools and hospitals. This would be the first time since WWII that state and territory leaders could set their own rate of income tax.

“What we are proposing to the states is we should work together on this basis, that we, the Federal Government, will reduce our income tax by an agreed percentage and allow State Governments to levy an income tax equal to that amount that we have withdrawn from,” he said.

“There would be no increase in income tax from a taxpayers’ point of view, he or she would pay the same amount of income tax.

“But the States would be raising the money themselves.”

Mr Turnbull said under the plan the Federal Government would administer the scheme, meaning there was no compliance cost to the states, and would apply only to personal income tax, not company tax.

“At the same time, we would then, with agreement with the states, withdraw from a number of the grants programs we have, so that from the Federal Budget’s point of view, the outcome would net off,” he said.

“We would be making fewer grants to the states but we would be receiving less income tax ourselves, the states would be receiving the income tax to cover those responsibilities.

Mr Turnbull will meet with state and territory leaders for Council of Australian Government (COAG) talks on Thursday night and Friday, said the changes were the only way to “genuinely reform” federation.




“I believe there is a real recognition that there is a failure at the heart of the federation and this is the failure,” he said.

“It is the failure of the States to have access to the revenue sources, to be able to do what a Government should be able to do.”
Mr Turnbull said the proposed reforms would give the states more control over their finances and reduce the need for them to go “cap in hand” to the Federal Government.

“You get this debilitating debate where the State says, ‘we don’t have any money, Canberra you have to raise the tax to give it to us’,” he said.

“The State Governments are sovereign Governments in their own right … They should have access to the source of funds to be able to fund their services.”

Mr Turnbull said smaller states would not be disadvantaged under the plan.

“I have talked to the Premiers of SA and Tasmania about this directly ...The opportunity here is to enable those State Governments and those State Parliaments to really be responsible for what they are doing,” he said.

“At the moment, if a State Government, a State Minister has a particular service or agency that is not performing well, he or she can try and manage it better.

“He or she can go to the Premier or the State Treasurer and say let’s put up land tax or payroll tax and raise more money, or, and this is the easiest one, get onto television and demand the Federal Government send them more cash.

“That is essentially a cop out.”
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Big Mal will give us some Subs info soon, likely to be a bit of a song and dance and big Mal show in which he tells us nothing. Its just he likes playing here, has some good mates but wants to put contract talks of until the end of the season to concentrate on his footy.......
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Little quiet around here......
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OMG Barnaby is running the house 8-}
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I hear there's going to a Federal announcement on the interconnector shortly.
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shoe boy wrote:OMG Barnaby is running the house 8-}

So this is what choas looks like.
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Senate is back voting on the ABCC bill today. It is expected that the bill will be rejected. Hence an election will be called if that is the case.
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Muir, Lambie and Lazarus are set to oppose.

Looks like we are going to a july 2nd election.
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Madigan also a no.

A vote is expected tonight.
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Bill defeated. 34 - 36.

Election now for July 2nd.
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stan wrote:Bill defeated. 34 - 36.

Election now for July 2nd.


Oh goody. Shorten on the TV 24/7 with his confected speeches

Saw Pyne at Marryatville shops on Saturday morning
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There must be an election in the air - I just saw half a dozen people/protesters holding up "Save Penalty Rates" signs on corner Currie St & Topham Mall.
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Jimmy_041 wrote:
stan wrote:Bill defeated. 34 - 36.

Election now for July 2nd.


Oh goody. Shorten on the TV 24/7 with his confected speeches

Saw Pyne at Marryatville shops on Saturday morning
Made my day telling him I'm voting for the Nick X Party

Hes a hard man to sit there and watch thats for sure.

But all of this comes down to Mr Turnball keeping his word.
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