The Bedge wrote:Richmond have the best defender, the best midfielder and the best marking forward, complimented by a swarm of small pressure forwards = Grand Final bound.
Port have an agile and stingy backline, the best ruckman, one of the best utilities (Gray),, and one of the best marking forwards, complimented by a swarm of small pressure forwards = Poor structures.
Morell where am I going wrong here?!
They can't beat top 8 sides....... that's where they're going wrong mate
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
morell wrote:[As does having the best marking forward
You don't rate Dixon?
I do, it would be between him and Jack as the "marking" key forward in the game. Kennedy as well be his more lead up than those two imo
So why does Richmond's setup work, and Port's does not?
Wingard and Gray provide no pressure whatsover. Thats taken without looking at stats or a graph, just going by feel of what i see. Ball comes out way to easy from Ports forward line. Gray is to busy arguing with the umpire to lock it in, once he cant get the ball he is out of the play. Wingard similar, Bottom line they both dont have an appetite for tackling, they are your classic KB type, goal hungry
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I do, it would be between him and Jack as the "marking" key forward in the game. Kennedy as well be his more lead up than those two imo
So why does Richmond's setup work, and Port's does not?
Wingard and Gray provide no pressure whatsover. Thats taken without looking at stats or a graph, just going by feel of what i see. Ball comes out way to easy from Ports forward line. Gray is to busy arguing with the umpire to lock it in, once he cant get the ball he is out of the play. Wingard similar, Bottom line they both dont have an appetite for tackling, they are your classic KB type, goal hungry
Totally agree. I'd say it would have a fair bit to do with them being ****** from playing midfield as well.
I'm on record as saying I prefer Wingard as just a forward. He's 2x AA in that position. Gray I love as 50/50 - not fussed if he doesn't run around like a blue arse fly. Just play his role - and kick goals and win critical clearances.
We really need an Atley or Drew to develop so that final rotation in the guts doesn't cost us burning one of these two.
morell wrote:[quote="The Bedge"] You don't rate Dixon?
I do, it would be between him and Jack as the "marking" key forward in the game. Kennedy as well be his more lead up than those two imo
So why does Richmond's setup work, and Port's does not?
Wingard and Gray provide no pressure whatsover. Thats taken without looking at stats or a graph, just going by feel of what i see. Ball comes out way to easy from Ports forward line. Gray is to busy arguing with the umpire to lock it in, once he cant get the ball he is out of the play. Wingard similar, Bottom line they both dont have an appetite for tackling, they are your classic KB type, goal hungry
Totally agree. I'd say it would have a fair bit to do with them being ****** from playing midfield as well.
I'm on record as saying I prefer Wingard as just a forward. He's 2x AA in that position. Gray I love as 50/50 - not fussed if he doesn't run around like a blue arse fly. Just play his role - and kick goals and win critical clearances.
We really need an Atley or Drew to develop so that final rotation in the guts doesn't cost us burning one of these two.[/quote]I think you guys need to get some senior game time in to Atley to start with. Be goes alright from what I have seen.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
stan wrote:I think you guys need to get some senior game time in to Atley to start with. Be goes alright from what I have seen.
Played 3 games this year and looked a little over awed in the second and third, went back to the SANFL accordingly.
One of the better players in the GF Sunday, I expect and hope he's part of our starting line up in 2018, shows lots of promise. Probably, like all kids, needs to develop more midfield level endurance over the summer.
Jimmy_041 wrote:Dixon is not in the same postcode as those guys
Tippett and he have their own special group
I dont really like Dixon either but credit where its due, be had a very good year and was a very good big forward.
When someone's view is as off the mark as the above you can't reason with it.
Yeah, Port had a great year as well. All of them are champions I will leave some stats here for the Top 10 goalkickers Too bad we cant see goals per $100,000 salary
Mind you, these days, marks can be misleading for the "power forwards". Travis Cloke used to take heaps of marks......... on the wing.... on the HBF...........
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Jimmy_041 wrote:Dixon is not in the same postcode as those guys
Tippett and he have their own special group
I dont really like Dixon either but credit where its due, be had a very good year and was a very good big forward.
He's always had the ability and size, always gave the impression the grey matter & remaining injury-free would be his biggest challenges. Most big blokes don't play their best footy til 27-30 imho, so Port definitely have that focal point to build a forwardline around.
Jimmy_041 wrote:Dixon is not in the same postcode as those guys
Tippett and he have their own special group
I dont really like Dixon either but credit where its due, be had a very good year and was a very good big forward.
He's always had the ability and size, always gave the impression the grey matter & remaining injury-free would be his biggest challenges. Most big blokes don't play their best footy til 27-30 imho, so Port definitely have that focal point to build a forwardline around.
Plenty on here knocked us for taking him due to his durability, I think the knock should have been on the GC Suns fitness crew and not Dixon himself. There's little doubt he's benefited from being involved in a world class physical performance set up.
Games per year : Gold Coast 2011 - 10 2012 - 12 2013 - 13 2014 - 14 2015 - 16 Port Adelaide 2016 - 18 of 22 2017 - 23 of 23
Stats are overrated, anyone who watched Ports games could see the impact Dixon had this year, Jimmy should stick to watching PAC where the only stat that matters is contested ball in the shower rooms
LMA wrote:Stats are overrated, anyone who watched Ports games could see the impact Dixon had this year, Jimmy should stick to watching PAC where the only stat that matters is contested ball in the shower rooms
LMA wrote:Stats are overrated, anyone who watched Ports games could see the impact Dixon had this year, Jimmy should stick to watching PAC where the only stat that matters is contested ball in the shower rooms
