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Jamarra Ugle-Hagan’s playing future is in the hands of the AFL amid calls for the troubled star to be stood down, Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge says.

The number one draft pick has not played a game this season because of personal issues, and it is unclear when or whether he will return to action.

Prominent past players have led calls this week for the Bulldogs to stand down Ugle-Hagan after new vision of the 23-year-old partying emerged on social media.

“I try not to think about the social media side of things too much,” Beveridge said on Thursday.

"At the moment the decision-making in regards to Marra’s future and what that entails is significantly in the AFL’s hands.

“We’re waiting on them to do certain things and we’re continually interacting with them and working through it to work out what’s best for Marra.”
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That sounds like a multi strike situation
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Jim05 wrote:Jamarra Ugle-Hagan’s playing future is in the hands of the AFL amid calls for the troubled star to be stood down, Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge says.

The number one draft pick has not played a game this season because of personal issues, and it is unclear when or whether he will return to action.

Prominent past players have led calls this week for the Bulldogs to stand down Ugle-Hagan after new vision of the 23-year-old partying emerged on social media.

“I try not to think about the social media side of things too much,” Beveridge said on Thursday.

"At the moment the decision-making in regards to Marra’s future and what that entails is significantly in the AFL’s hands.

“We’re waiting on them to do certain things and we’re continually interacting with them and working through it to work out what’s best for Marra.”
Taking the absolute piss, shouldn't be getting his full pay.

I had my concerns for him initially but he clearly has no qualms in collecting the coin to go party while his mates on shitloads less do all the hard work.
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We don’t know if he is getting full coin. Usually it’s a payment and then match fees
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Brodlach wrote:We don’t know if he is getting full coin. Usually it’s a payment and then match fees
He'd have a pretty healthy retainer and then I'd imagine he'd be on some income protection given the circumstance surrounding his absence.

I remember hearing somewhere that players pay frequency varies with age/years on a list, the younger ones get paid more often.

I do love watching the kid and hope that he finds his way back out on the field ASAP, it's easy for us to cast stones from afar as in our minds we'd love to be in the same position, it would be a big culture shock to be borrowing $50 off the olds one minute then a few months later on mega dollars.
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I’m no psychologist but I would think drinking alcohol wouldn’t be beneficial if you have mental health issues
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It's a tricky one. The guy clearly has mental health issues, and if him spending time with friends like he is doing is ways to recovering his mental health then you would think this is the right way to go. The issue long term is is he cut out for AFL football then and the pressures, training, professionalism that comes with it?
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He will end up being delisted and the Cats will get him for free. Dogs will probably throw in their first too as a sweetener :)
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I have no issue with JU-H hanging out with friends or trying to find ways to disconnect from the pressures of AFL footy.. but from an outside point of view it appears he's taking the mickey with this.

The constant social media stuff isn't helping at all - stay off it mate, even if you are out getting shit faced! All it does is invite every man and his dog in to have an opinion - and if you're struggling with mental health, then opening yourself up to scrutiny from the country is certainly not going to help.

The vibe he gives off is that he is untouchable and he doesn't give a **** about anyone else he's going to do what he wants.. and sadly that'll be his undoing.
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The Bedge wrote:I have no issue with JU-H hanging out with friends or trying to find ways to disconnect from the pressures of AFL footy.. but from an outside point of view it appears he's taking the mickey with this.

The constant social media stuff isn't helping at all - stay off it mate, even if you are out getting shit faced! All it does is invite every man and his dog in to have an opinion - and if you're struggling with mental health, then opening yourself up to scrutiny from the country is certainly not going to help.

The vibe he gives off is that he is untouchable and he doesn't give a **** about anyone else he's going to do what he wants.. and sadly that'll be his undoing.
Who is advising him?
His manager has to be having some say in all this. But he or she isn't going to bollock him too hard because he is a cash cow.

Simple, Jamarra no more social media.
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Brodlach wrote:We don’t know if he is getting full coin. Usually it’s a payment and then match fees
A lot of clubs prefer to do set contracts these days, makes it much easier to balance the books. If you get a heap of 'base + match payment' guys playing most of the season, get's really hard to stay under the cap, considering you have to pay a minimum of 95% of it at the start of the year. 5% is bugger all wriggle room, and the less unexpected payments, the better.
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We all get 10 days sick leave per year why can’t footballers be the same?
If we don’t turn up to work after using them we don’t get paid so why the hell should he

He sounds like an entitled twat to me
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Starting to think its a bulldogs problem though. how many of their stars are leaving... McCrae, C.Daniel, B.Smith, now Jamarra. Something rotten down there.
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Just watched the Beveridge presser and the way he put it on the AFL it's hard to see it being anything but 3 strikes.

Why else would they (AFL) be involved?
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Booney wrote:Just watched the Beveridge presser and the way he put it on the AFL it's hard to see it being anything but 3 strikes.

Why else would they (AFL) be involved?
Going to be interesting to see how the AFL handle this
How much ‘truth’ will be told here?
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He's already played the mental health card, is the self reporting on a strike still a thing?
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MW wrote:Starting to think its a bulldogs problem though. how many of their stars are leaving... McCrae, C.Daniel, B.Smith, now Jamarra. Something rotten down there.
Daniel, and to a lesser extent, Macrae were not seen as fitting into the way the Bulldogs want to play. Smith wanted the extra Cotton On cash and the "lifestyle" down at Corio Bay. I'm not convinced it's a culture issue just yet.
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Booney wrote:Just watched the Beveridge presser and the way he put it on the AFL it's hard to see it being anything but 3 strikes.

Why else would they (AFL) be involved?
The strikes don’t count if you cite mental health.

They, the AFL, have devised a system that you get off so long as you are willing to say you have mental health issues.

What could possibly go wrong?
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Booney wrote:Just watched the Beveridge presser and the way he put it on the AFL it's hard to see it being anything but 3 strikes.

Why else would they (AFL) be involved?
Agreed, said the same earlier
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Disgraced AFL player agent Ricky Nixon has been arrested over a series of alleged threatening social media posts.

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