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Re: Ch9AFL Division 7 - 2017

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beef wrote:
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Half Back Flanker wrote:Maybe this might be an idea for another thread but if this is actually true, and the same with lots of other clubs whom have struggled over the last 5 -10 years, are there too many clubs to close to each other? The demographic of the kids these days have changed to when I played junior football and is it possible that all these clubs just can't survive? Will there have to be mergers to continue to keep clubs strong?

Clubs are too stubborn to merge. Cant even think of the last merger in the city. Clubs will die because kids want to play soccer these days. Junior footy is all about girls now


off the top of my head and the list goes back a few years:

Unley and Mercedes
Kenilworth and Burnside
Kenilworth and CLG
Smosh and West Lakes
Goodwood and St Raphaels
Alberton United, Ethelton & Riverside

Cant really call Unley & Mercedes a merger.
Assuming you mean Burnside-Kensington (that wasnt very succesful)
Kenilworth & CLG - wasnt aware of that - assume they've since unmerged
The others i would say have been pretty good, however it would be interesting to know how a past player of say Riverside feels, would he rather a new side to support or do they feel like "their" club is dead


i wasnt debating the success of them..just that they happened..if unley hadnt "joined" with mercedes then we would have seen the mercedes fc come into its own the very next year..

i know an ex rivvies guy and he echoes what you are saying..its sort of dead really..
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Re: Ch9AFL Division 7 - 2017

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beef wrote:
zedman wrote:
beef wrote:
Half Back Flanker wrote:Maybe this might be an idea for another thread but if this is actually true, and the same with lots of other clubs whom have struggled over the last 5 -10 years, are there too many clubs to close to each other? The demographic of the kids these days have changed to when I played junior football and is it possible that all these clubs just can't survive? Will there have to be mergers to continue to keep clubs strong?

Clubs are too stubborn to merge. Cant even think of the last merger in the city. Clubs will die because kids want to play soccer these days. Junior footy is all about girls now


off the top of my head and the list goes back a few years:

Unley and Mercedes
Kenilworth and Burnside
Kenilworth and CLG
Smosh and West Lakes
Goodwood and St Raphaels
Alberton United, Ethelton & Riverside

Cant really call Unley & Mercedes a merger.
Assuming you mean Burnside-Kensington (that wasnt very succesful)
Kenilworth & CLG - wasnt aware of that - assume they've since unmerged
The others i would say have been pretty good, however it would be interesting to know how a past player of say Riverside feels, would he rather a new side to support or do they feel like "their" club is dead


I am an ex Rivvies guy who played there during the 80's....not really at all interested in the 'new' club
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Re: Ch9AFL Division 7 - 2017

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Brighton High OS and Brighton merged at the end of 1990 to form the Brighton Districts & Old Scholars commonly known as the Brighton Bombers and worked our way from A3 to A1 from 1991 to 1996 before joining the SFL in 1997. The fact that the name Brighton is common across all 3 clubs helps with identity retention plus there were many past-players who played at both clubs back in the day which also helped. In general it has been a very successful merger.

Kenilworth and CLG was a weird merger for the 5 to 6 years it lasted in the 1980's. Apparently they were one-club on the field but still had 2 separate committees and incorporated bodies off the field. Basically it was always intended to be a short-term merge to deal with player shortages across both clubs. I believe Greek Camden was a very similar situation back in the late 1980's until Greek had a short term merge with Henley (which may have been Henley OS before that) and then just became Henley after a few years as Henley Greek.

Not sure how PHOS Camden works because I don't think there was a Camden when Greek departed for Henley and PHOS moved from the back of Plympton High but the Camden name was still retained even though it wasn't really a merger.

An obvious one missed is Payneham Norwood Union. And was Fitzroy a merge or just a re-name of the old Renown Park that had folded a couple of years earlier?

And back in the 80's Port Districts was the merge of co-tenants Semaphore Central and Exeter to join SAFA before coming back to the SAAFL a few years later.
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Re: Ch9AFL Division 7 - 2017

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Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
Half Back Flanker wrote:Maybe this might be an idea for another thread but if this is actually true, and the same with lots of other clubs whom have struggled over the last 5 -10 years, are there too many clubs to close to each other? The demographic of the kids these days have changed to when I played junior football and is it possible that all these clubs just can't survive? Will there have to be mergers to continue to keep clubs strong?

Changing demographic is a real. Ingle Farm were without any juniors for a while, but were able to re-establish when Walkley Heights was developed. With Greenacres not having juniors, Gepps Cross are in a perfect position to capture all of the kids from Oakden, Northgate and Lightsview and strengthen their juniors for many years.

Probably pretty hard to establish junior footy at Greenacres as many parents wouldn't feel comfortable with their kids paying and training so close to a prison.
There's merger talk every year within the SAAFL, they are a thing of the past in metropolitan footy, you can see the relevance in the country but with the amount of clubs so close to each other you simply sink or swim.
As for junior development, the strong clubs will get stronger and more clubs will die off, you can't knock the stronger clubs or disadvantage them as parents want their kids playing at well ran clubs.
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Down the Hill wrote:Brighton High OS and Brighton merged at the end of 1990 to form the Brighton Districts & Old Scholars commonly known as the Brighton Bombers and worked our way from A3 to A1 from 1991 to 1996 before joining the SFL in 1997. The fact that the name Brighton is common across all 3 clubs helps with identity retention plus there were many past-players who played at both clubs back in the day which also helped. In general it has been a very successful merger.

Kenilworth and CLG was a weird merger for the 5 to 6 years it lasted in the 1980's. Apparently they were one-club on the field but still had 2 separate committees and incorporated bodies off the field. Basically it was always intended to be a short-term merge to deal with player shortages across both clubs. I believe Greek Camden was a very similar situation back in the late 1980's until Greek had a short term merge with Henley (which may have been Henley OS before that) and then just became Henley after a few years as Henley Greek.

Not sure how PHOS Camden works because I don't think there was a Camden when Greek departed for Henley and PHOS moved from the back of Plympton High but the Camden name was still retained even though it wasn't really a merger.


An obvious one missed is Payneham Norwood Union. And was Fitzroy a merge or just a re-name of the old Renown Park that had folded a couple of years earlier?

And back in the 80's Port Districts was the merge of co-tenants Semaphore Central and Exeter to join SAFA before coming back to the SAAFL a few years later.


That part made me :-O :-O
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I think fitzroy was renown park and st domenics merger. Dont quote me on that..
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Footy Chick wrote:I think fitzroy was renown park and st domenics merger. Dont quote me on that..

From their website:

"The Fitzroy Football Club is a not for profit community based football club that is affiliated with the South Australian Amateur Football League (seniors), which is the largest football league in Australia, and the SANFL Juniors. The club was formed in 1925 as the Brompton Football Club in the West Torrens District League. In 1983, Brompton amalgamated with Albert Druid Sports and became known as Renown Park Football Club [Premiers in 1983 & 1985]. In 1987, Renown Park amalgamated with St Peters YCW and St Dominics [Premiers 1965, 1966, 1971 & 1974] to form the Fitzroy Football Club – The Lions. The club name of Fitzroy came from the geographical centre-point of the five former clubs. Many of the foundation families from these different clubs are still supporting the “Lions” today. In 2012, we celebrated 25 years of Fitzroy with a special Heritage jumper that commemorated the five clubs that came together to form the Fitzroy Football Club. Since the merger to create the club we now know as the “Lions”"
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Ok, do quote me on that...lol
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Footy Chick wrote:Ok, do quote me on that...lol


Literally.
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That will push Para Hills over the edge - Holland & Cree!!
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There's is no point what so ever predicting the ladder apart from who everyone believes is making up numbers in the Grand Final. One spot is already sown up.

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Demon Juke wrote:That will push Para Hills over the edge - Holland & Cree!!


its countered by this:

Lockleys Mitchell Park Knowles, Wayne Pending 2017-02-21 8)
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zedman wrote:
Demon Juke wrote:That will push Para Hills over the edge - Holland & Cree!!


its countered by this:

Lockleys Mitchell Park Knowles, Wayne Pending 2017-02-21 8)


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Very funny Zed
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Re: Ch9AFL Division 7 - 2017

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Half Back Flanker wrote:
zedman wrote:
Demon Juke wrote:That will push Para Hills over the edge - Holland & Cree!!


its countered by this:

Lockleys Mitchell Park Knowles, Wayne Pending 2017-02-21 8)


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Very funny Zed


Huge in. Literally :lol:
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Are we on the crisp of a Para Hills "Dynasty"? Could we possibly see a "Hawthornesq" 3 in a row Premiership??
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Had many a kick to kick with Wayne over the last few weeks - I can say he is moving like a great white shark in deep water at the moment. It's like poetry in motion. Think Shaun Burgoyne but a bit whiter and wider.
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Demon Juke wrote:That will push Para Hills over the edge - Holland & Cree!!


God i'm good.. read Cree like a book..

Zartan wrote:Wouldn't be surprised to see Paul Cree head back there either..
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Zartan wrote:
Demon Juke wrote:That will push Para Hills over the edge - Holland & Cree!!


God i'm good.. read Cree like a book..

Zartan wrote:Wouldn't be surprised to see Paul Cree head back there either..


Hope they get more than the 14 and a half quarters out of him that we did :lol:
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How are they for points? Surely they must be close?
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Zartan wrote:
Demon Juke wrote:That will push Para Hills over the edge - Holland & Cree!!


God i'm good.. read Cree like a book..

Zartan wrote:Wouldn't be surprised to see Paul Cree head back there either..

Was Cree originally from PH or Ingle Farm?
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