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whufc wrote:Boyd Rankin could have just become a trivia question for shortest ever test career



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whufc wrote:Boyd Rankin could have just become a trivia question for shortest ever test career


Won't be shorter than Roy Park's Test career.
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Phantom Gossiper wrote:
mal wrote:WHUFC
He used to get bowled a fair bit earlier in his career
He then started covering his stumps to stop getting bowled
Now he is getting out LBW almost exclusively compared to bowled
So , well answered it is a technical fault as much as anything

But give him credit , he has batted well enough in this series , and he has only been out LBW once in just under 350 runs

Wrong.

He was dismissed almost twice as many times LBW as he was BOWLED in the early part of his career...


Wattos mode of dismissals starting from todays innings going backwards[should be reasonably accurate I hope]
LBW
NOT OUT
C
RUN OUT
C
C
C+B
C
C
C
LBW
LBW
LBW
C
C
C
LBW
C
C
LBW
C
LBW
C
ST
B
C
ST
C
C
C
B
C
C
C
B
C
LBW
C
LBW
B
C
C

LBW
C
B
C
B
LBW
C
B
C
C
C
C
C
C
RUN OUT
NOT OUT
LBW
C
C
B
LBW
LBW
LBW
LBW
C
That's going back to when he took over form Phil Hughes in and England Ashes series about 4 years ago
17 LBWS
6 BOWLED

Since the last time he was bowled he has been out LBW 7 times and not bowled

Not sure If I'm wrong Phantom?
Point being he used to get bowled often enough in his first half to three quarters of his career
To eradicate that he now covers his stumps more the last 2 or so years or about last 25% of his career
Hence 7LBWs in a row and no bowleds

Back to the original point
If he eradicates Bowled from being a mode of dismissal
It increases the probability of being dismissed more LBW and Caught
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Irish joke time

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Borthwink :lol: Cheers Cooky :D
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mal wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
mal wrote:He used to get bowled a fair bit earlier in his career
He then started covering his stumps to stop getting bowled

Not sure If I'm wrong Phantom?
Point being he used to get bowled often enough in his first half to three quarters of his career
To eradicate that he now covers his stumps more the last 2 or so years or about last 25% of his career
Hence 7LBWs in a row and no bowleds

You indicated that he used to get bowled earlier in his career then he started covering his stumps to avoid getting bowled.

My point is that LBW was already a common mode of dismissal early in his career before and during the bowled phase.

Understand he doesnt get bowled these days, and hasnt for a while, but the LBW issue is as prevalent as ever..
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Haddin gone to Stokes for a brilliant 75

Aus 6/225

Would like to see us get up to 300
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Watson's issue is he doesn't punish bowlers for getting onto the stumps. Most top class test batsmen see balls on middle stump as easy runs. Watson sees it as danger. If you let a bowler keep bowling at the stumps they'll get you eventually.

Haddin with another great knock. 5 tests, 5 first innings 50s. I can't imagine anyone wanting better when you realise that his keeping has been near faultless and each time he's scored runs we've been in trouble. Somewhat strange time and manner of dismissal though. I just wonder whether he was in two minds about attacking or taking the easy singles the POMs had given him.

Smith needs to go on here. I don't mind your number 7 counter attacking out of trouble and making 50s, but you bat 5 you have to go on with it. No need to panic with the way our tail has gone all series. 350 looks good, 400+ not out of the question.
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Grahaml wrote:Watson's issue is he doesn't punish bowlers for getting onto the stumps. Most top class test batsmen see balls on middle stump as easy runs. Watson sees it as danger. If you let a bowler keep bowling at the stumps they'll get you eventually.

Haddin with another great knock. 5 tests, 5 first innings 50s. I can't imagine anyone wanting better when you realise that his keeping has been near faultless and each time he's scored runs we've been in trouble. Somewhat strange time and manner of dismissal though. I just wonder whether he was in two minds about attacking or taking the easy singles the POMs had given him.

Smith needs to go on here. I don't mind your number 7 counter attacking out of trouble and making 50s, but you bat 5 you have to go on with it. No need to panic with the way our tail has gone all series. 350 looks good, 400+ not out of the question.


Watson can't punish the bowlers for getting on to middle because of his technique.

Instead of staying side on where he could then flick it onto the leg side he plants the foot, squares himself up and can only hit the ball five metres either side of the bowler.

His technique means its nearly impossible to work a ball through mid wicket to square leg unless he gets an inside edge
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Grahaml wrote:Haddin with another great knock. 5 tests, 5 first innings 50s. I can't imagine anyone wanting better when you realise that his keeping has been near faultless and each time he's scored runs we've been in trouble. Somewhat strange time and manner of dismissal though. I just wonder whether he was in two minds about attacking or taking the easy singles the POMs had given him.


As much as you can take from cricinfo, it seems the boys have really set themselves to target stokes this match. Hurt his bowling and hopefully his batting falls away as well.
Stokes' Economy rate was over 5.6 when haddin fell.
Haddin and Rogers both got out playing aggressively against him.
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Watson wields the willow too wildly outside off stump when he could just them go through
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Smith has been ultra impressive today. Has looked as good as anyone this series today. Deserves a ton.
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Johnson goes, 7/269, get em in I say
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The Blonde Don is he the greatest ever Aussie batsmen lol!!!!

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Very well Played S.Smith. Nice waist high full toss to get when your on 99.
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mal wrote:The pressure is on
Will East Coast Smith deliver the goods ?


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smith should bat at 3

sack Watson
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Harris you beauty

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Phantom Gossiper wrote:
mal wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
mal wrote:He used to get bowled a fair bit earlier in his career
He then started covering his stumps to stop getting bowled

Not sure If I'm wrong Phantom?
Point being he used to get bowled often enough in his first half to three quarters of his career
To eradicate that he now covers his stumps more the last 2 or so years or about last 25% of his career
Hence 7LBWs in a row and no bowleds

You indicated that he used to get bowled earlier in his career then he started covering his stumps to avoid getting bowled.

My point is that LBW was already a common mode of dismissal early in his career before and during the bowled phase.

Understand he doesnt get bowled these days, and hasnt for a while, but the LBW issue is as prevalent as ever..



I can see your point PG
Case of looking at this in different directions

To further my point
In a few innings in the sub continent he played a long way back on the backfoot and was getting trapped Bowled and LBW
The newer Watto now plays across and forward
It eliminated Bowleds but increased his LBW dismissals

Has not been bowled in his last 25 innings
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Watson should play out of his crease
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