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Post by bennymacca »

Q. wrote:You don't watch much footy, do you benny. Beams led a number of key stats for the Pies this year, and is not as far behind Pendles as you put it. Won a Copeland at 22, Pendles played that year too ya know.

You don't give up an established gun without getting close to equal in return. A first year player with great potential and a pick that could be something or nithing is about right.

bennymacca wrote:of course, but you also dont expect to get paid massively when a player wants out - it is clear that the culture at the pies stinks and this is part of the reason he has left.


Shows how much you don't know. Yes, he wants out. Doesn't like the Leading Teams model being implemented and was certainly unhappy when his best mate Heater got the boot.


you are allowed to have your opinion that you think beams is as good as danger, i just dont share that opinion. no need to be a douche about it.



woodublieve12 wrote:The only blokes this year who can say they won games off their own boots from the top of my head are Franklin and Ablett..

Danger wasn't that influential IMHO in fact i feel he was sometimes the problem, not the solution.


and i agree with the fact that danger had a down year. but it happens, especially when you are carrying niggling injuries most of the year.


according to AFL website,

danger had 6 best player for adelaide,
2 top 3
5 named in bests

beams had 7 BoG
5 top 3 (including second best on ground, mostly to pendles)
3 top 6

so even in a "bad" season for danger he doesnt stack up too badly.

beams had a better year for sure, but if you asked me who i wanted out of beams and danger, i would take danger 100 out of 100 and i think most people would, assuming both are fit.
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HH3 wrote:Id even go as far to say that Danger is as over-rated as Tippett was.

Must be something about Adelaide having to pump one of their players up to be one of the best.


Now that's just a silly statement
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HH3 wrote:Id even go as far to say that Danger is as over-rated as Tippett was.

Must be something about Adelaide having to pump one of their players up to be one of the best.



Enter Crows supporters going crazy......
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bennymacca wrote:beams had a better year for sure, but if you asked me who i wanted out of beams and danger, i would take danger 100 out of 100 and i think most people would, assuming both are fit.



Judging by this discussion, I'd say most people would take Beams
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You guys and gals make me laugh ... demonising Dangerfield because he's a dickhead off the field.

He's a gun, abiet not in the very, very top elite class but not far behind.

I'd take him over Beams any day.

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We digress though. Danger is a gun. Beams is a gun.

Adelaide wouldn't let themselves get bent over in a trade with Danger. That's my point.
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I think Dangerfield is a very good player and can become even better. But I think he needs to play in an environment where he is not top dog. He doesn’t have any experienced players to pull him into line. I know for a fact he didn’t take the coaches direction in some games last year and did his own thing. If he was playing for Hawthorn or Geelong I think you would see a different Dangerfield as there is no way Selwood or Hodge would put up with that on the field.

There is more to a team game than having brilliant players. They must be willing to play for the team first.
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HH3 wrote:Id even go as far to say that Danger is as over-rated as Tippett was.

Must be something about Adelaide having to pump one of their players up to be one of the best.

Haha nice Troll.

I would take Dangerfield over Beams but not by much. I rate them both highly
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:D I'm just adding the "bullshit" part in the threads title ;)

Having said that, my preference would be Beams.
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I think how good Beams is gets hidden by having Pendles and to a lesser extent Swan around him.
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So where's Cooney at now?

Bulldogs put him up for a trade and no-one is biting.
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In terms of players ability to lift and get their team over the line Joel Selwood would be right up there.

Might not win a game off his own boot (although his goalkicking has increased) but purely on will to get the ball at any cost and lift all those around him he is one of the best. Perhaps why he is the AA Captain....
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cennals05 wrote:I think Dangerfield is a very good player and can become even better. But I think he needs to play in an environment where he is not top dog. He doesn’t have any experienced players to pull him into line. I know for a fact he didn’t take the coaches direction in some games last year and did his own thing. If he was playing for Hawthorn or Geelong I think you would see a different Dangerfield as there is no way Selwood or Hodge would put up with that on the field.

There is more to a team game than having brilliant players. They must be willing to play for the team first.


Personally I think that is where we missed Van Berlo the most this season. He's doesn't possess a great deal of skill, but as a leader I think he is great for the club.

Scott Thompson should have been given the captaincy in 2015. Sloane and Dangerfield are still quite raw when it comes to leading a team in that way.
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Agree with all of that SD
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back to topic

seems like slow news day compared to yesty..... oh apart from Mcartney getting the chop. So is Griffin staying?
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dedja wrote:So where's Cooney at now?

Bulldogs put him up for a trade and no-one is biting.

Can assure you we are having a good crack behind the scenes, we just havnt got much to trade with at the moment
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Beams v Danger. Beams for me as I can see him having a longer career than Danger. Both top players no doubt.

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Jim05 wrote:
dedja wrote:So where's Cooney at now?

Bulldogs put him up for a trade and no-one is biting.

Can assure you we are having a good crack behind the scenes, we just havnt got much to trade with at the moment


Sam McClure says a 4th round pick for Cooney ???? What the hell? Carlton, grab him with pick no. whateveryougotforGarlett!
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My be rubbish but Cooney's been seen at North Melbourne having a medical
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gadj1976 wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
dedja wrote:So where's Cooney at now?

Bulldogs put him up for a trade and no-one is biting.

Can assure you we are having a good crack behind the scenes, we just havnt got much to trade with at the moment


Sam McClure says a 4th round pick for Cooney ???? What the hell? Carlton, grab him with pick no. whateveryougotforGarlett!


Just saw on twitter that he is at North Melbourne having a medical.

Also the Patful deal is done with Brisbane receiving pick 21.
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