State of the game

[tigerpie]

Playing on concrete can't be great for the body 18 times though.

[UK Fan]

Don’t need to change onfield rules just change the reward system.

All it would take is one team to miss out on a top four/finals spot due to bonus points before the club reviews it’s game plan in the off season.

I’ve always believed percentage rewards good defensive teams.

You win a game 65-50 you get 130%

You win a game 115-100 you get 115%.

Coaches worked this out years ago.

It’s a better solution than zones imho.

[woodublieve12]

STOP F##### WITH OUR GAME!!!!

Don't even care how many times i repeat myself in this thread... Game doesn't need changing

[Lightning McQueen]

Whilst it is a good idea in theory, how do you account for the variables, for example:

- Queensland sides are at a disadvantage at the beginning of the season due to monsoonal conditions making it impossible to score 100 points.

- Teams who play their home games at Etihad getting a perceived unfair advantage. There would have to be an even distribution of games there.

But then advantaged when it's pissing down in the Southern states, it's hard to rack up the ton in Tassie.

[Lightning McQueen]

I have a solution to get the game high scoring again that doesn’t include zones.

Reward a team who scores 100 points win lose or draw a bonus point.

Bulldogs 111 beat Geelong 108

Bulldogs get 5 points
Cats get 1 point.

As a league these are the games you want more of so reward the teams involved.

So far Melbourne have scored 100 points 12 times
Collingwood and Richmond 11 times
West coast Geelong 6
Adelaide hawks kangaroos 5
Sydney Freo 4
Essendon port bulldogs saints lions 3
Giants 2
Suns 1
Carlton 0

We have had 5 games this year that both teams have scored over 100 points
3 of those games were in round 15.
2 at etihad - Essendon vs kangaroos Geelong vs bulldogs both round 15
2 at the g - hawks vs cats round 2 saints vs Melbourne round 15
1 Gabba - Lions vs Collingwood round 7.

Simple.

I tend to agree with you mate, although is it selfish of us to want to see more attacking footy or is it a way to get more bums on seats?

At the end of the day, the clubs are franchises and wins are what buy memberships and merchandise, that's all they are interested in until there's a carrot, I think you have the right idea though, don't change the game, change the rewards.

Just for that, I'll let you buy me a beer next time I see you

[whufc]

Don’t need to change onfield rules just change the reward system.

All it would take is one team to miss out on a top four/finals spot due to bonus points before the club reviews it’s game plan in the off season.

I’ve always believed percentage rewards good defensive teams.

You win a game 65-50 you get 130%

You win a game 115-100 you get 115%.

Coaches worked this out years ago.

It’s a better solution than zones imho.

I love the simplistic nature of it, no grey areas purely black and white. 99 equals no bonus, 100 equals a bonus. No tricky formulas, math calculations etc.

The only slight adaption which to be honest doesn't make much of a difference but rather than total points you may say 15 goals is the bonus for example.

[Lightning McQueen]

Ive said it before the only time the game is unpredictable is at a centre bounce and for the ensuing lets sy 30 seconds to a minute. We need to replicate that for a majority of the game. Once that minute passes all clubs are able to set up defensively and it becomes a boring mess of 36 players around the football. Im all for whatever it takes. Buckleys argument that we will be waiting for players to get back in zones is flawed. How bout as a coach you leave your players in the zone, if you dont want to do that then you force the hand of the rule makers to make a zone that certain players cant leave and we dont want that. The coaches should shut their mouths, they are the reson we are in this predicament. Too many coaches in the game, restricting that would help. Ive been taking notice of assistant coaches when they speak after games on radio etc and all they talk about is defence, when they lose its all about letting the opposition score too freely, its a mindset and a blighht on the game.
I used to think reducing rotations would help but given the mindset of coaches i dont think it will. They will just instruct the players to play keepings off and kick backwards and maintain possesion.
Im all for shorter games but only if they extgend the season to 34 matches. Shofrter games equal play more often, you might play on a Monday and then a FRiday and back up the next Wednesday like a basketball draw, still fit the season in, inthe same time frame. Less training more playing, im sure the players would love it. Have your bigger drawing games on weekends and your suns v carlton type game on a tuesday night. Maximiose your crowds on a weekend and who cares if theres 5 people at a game during the week. I know the idea is out there but it could work

Wubbsy i understand a Sydney fan you have a very different interpretation of whats exciting football. To 90% of fans the Sydney way is what has got us into this mess. If it wasnt for Geelong and Hawthorn over the last 10 years we wouldve reached this point long ago.

I like it, increase squad sizes to 50 aswell, one thing that irks me in current format is when we eagerly await the draw and then we all dissect it and work out who has the hardest draw and what not.

Once home, once away, there is no fairer way.

[Jim05]

Definitely will be rule changes and listening to Gil this morning there is a fair chance the new rules will be trialled in the last 3-4 rounds of this year between teams that have no bearings on finals

[UK Fan]

I have a solution to get the game high scoring again that doesn’t include zones.

Reward a team who scores 100 points win lose or draw a bonus point.

Bulldogs 111 beat Geelong 108

Bulldogs get 5 points
Cats get 1 point.

As a league these are the games you want more of so reward the teams involved.

So far Melbourne have scored 100 points 12 times
Collingwood and Richmond 11 times
West coast Geelong 6
Adelaide hawks kangaroos 5
Sydney Freo 4
Essendon port bulldogs saints lions 3
Giants 2
Suns 1
Carlton 0

We have had 5 games this year that both teams have scored over 100 points
3 of those games were in round 15.
2 at etihad - Essendon vs kangaroos Geelong vs bulldogs both round 15
2 at the g - hawks vs cats round 2 saints vs Melbourne round 15
1 Gabba - Lions vs Collingwood round 7.

Simple.

I tend to agree with you mate, although is it selfish of us to want to see more attacking footy or is it a way to get more bums on seats?

At the end of the day, the clubs are franchises and wins are what buy memberships and merchandise, that's all they are interested in until there's a carrot, I think you have the right idea though, don't change the game, change the rewards.

Just for that, I'll let you buy me a beer next time I see you

The league wants higher scoring/less congestion.

As for less congestion I’d bring back a modified 3rd man up rule. If someone is electing to go as 3rd man up they are going to try to clear the area and move the ball forward as far as they can. Maybe change it to not allowed at boundary throw ins and only I f the ball hasn’t moved more than x amount of metres after a stoppage then the 3rd man up rule can come into play.

As in not available at every stoppage but it is an effective way to break up congestion from what I’ve seen in sanfl games . And less annoying than last touch rule

[Lightning McQueen]

The league wants higher scoring/less congestion.

As for less congestion I’d bring back a modified 3rd man up rule. If someone is electing to go as 3rd man up they are going to try to clear the area and move the ball forward as far as they can. Maybe change it to not allowed at boundary throw ins and only I f the ball hasn’t moved more than x amount of metres after a stoppage then the 3rd man up rule can come into play.

As in not available at every stoppage but it is an effective way to break up congestion from what I’ve seen in sanfl games . And less annoying than last touch rule

The Dangerfield free on the weekend made a mockery of the ruling.

[valleys07]

Whilst it is a good idea in theory, how do you account for the variables, for example:

- Queensland sides are at a disadvantage at the beginning of the season due to monsoonal conditions making it impossible to score 100 points.

- Teams who play their home games at Etihad getting a perceived unfair advantage. There would have to be an even distribution of games there.

But then advantaged when it's pissing down in the Southern states, it's hard to rack up the ton in Tassie.

Fair call. Evens itself out at the end of the day.

[gadj1976]

My God! Gillon wants to trial new rules in the latter rounds of season 2018! He's gone mad.

[carey]

STOP F##### WITH OUR GAME!!!!

Don't even care how many times i repeat myself in this thread... Game doesn't need changing

This ^

End of thread.....

[HH3]

Haven't watched a game in years. Probably won't watch one ever again. This is laughable at best.

[Jim05]

My God! Gillon wants to trial new rules in the latter rounds of season 2018! He's gone mad.

I mentioned that this morning.
Is planning to trial it in games that have no bearing on finals.

[Alaska]

Yes, but they count for Brownlow votes and draft rankings, the integrity of the game for 2018 will be destroyed.

[mots02]

My God! Gillon wants to trial new rules in the latter rounds of season 2018! He's gone mad.

I mentioned that this morning.
Is planning to trial it in games that have no bearing on finals.

The AFL should feel ok if fans boycott the games both live and on tv then.

Trial games deserve trial game atmosphere and interest.

[amber_fluid]

My God! Gillon wants to trial new rules in the latter rounds of season 2018! He's gone mad.

I mentioned that this morning.
Is planning to trial it in games that have no bearing on finals.

Cool.
Carlton could have trialled these new rules from round 1 then.

[MW]

AFL has lost the plot. And that's saying something...

[Senor Moto Gadili]

My God! Gillon wants to trial new rules in the latter rounds of season 2018! He's gone mad.

I mentioned that this morning.
Is planning to trial it in games that have no bearing on finals.

The AFL should feel ok if fans boycott the games both live and on tv then.

Trial games deserve trial game atmosphere and interest.

...but, that won't happen. Under normal circumstances nobody will attend or watch the Q clash in round 23. However, if they decide to trial "whatever" the whole world will be watching.