by The Bedge » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:16 pm
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by whufc » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:17 pm
The Bedge wrote:bubba love wrote:Do you guys know which way your club will go on it? Are teams in div 4,5 etc going to vote for something that will end with them being relegated?! I’ve only recently stopped playing but if I was and our committee had voted for it and cut the legs out from under the playing group I would be livid
Certainly plenty of mixed thoughts getting around from the people/clubs I've spoken with.
Funnily enough, the lower the division and lower the ranked club i.e. Ingle Farm - the more against the idea they are.
Once you look at it as effectively just a div name change and slight adjustment, and the fact your "ranking" doesn't change in the wider scheme of things, the easier it is to swallow.
It probably becomes more daunting when you're staring down the barrel of "division 8" or similar.
I still think people get too hung up over divisions and the perception of "needing" to be in a certain division.
by bubba love » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:17 pm
by The Bedge » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:18 pm
whufc wrote:Would the relegation pill have been easier to swallow if the question/vote was cast before the season had started.
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by Trader » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:20 pm
The Bedge wrote:Sass! wrote:The initial barrier for alot of people seems to be the "relegation" to division 4. I do think that if the 8 team comp went ahead, calling Division 1 the Premier/ Championship Division (or similar) could alleviate some of those concerns as teams 9 to 16 would then become the Division 1. 17 to 24 Division 3 and so on.
Agree with this.
by whufc » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:21 pm
The Bedge wrote:whufc wrote:Would the relegation pill have been easier to swallow if the question/vote was cast before the season had started.
Last time I checked, we hadn't started 2022 yet
by The Bedge » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:23 pm
whufc wrote:The Bedge wrote:whufc wrote:Would the relegation pill have been easier to swallow if the question/vote was cast before the season had started.
Last time I checked, we hadn't started 2022 yet
I meant would it have been better if clubs had a whole years notice to get their ship in order and ensure they did everything possible to not be in the relegation positions knowing it meant they would go down an 'extra' division. If the decision for next year was made before this year started no one would have been able to have any complaints and im sure more clubs would have been onside.
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by Down the Hill » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:38 pm
by Dols » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:44 pm
You sound like Gladys Berejiklian!!!!Down the Hill wrote:I'm still undecided on my own preference for 2022 but people have to get the term "relegation" out of their mindset. What is being proposed is a recalibration of the divisional structure based on reduced team numbers in each Division. A Division 5 club this year has 2 Divisions below it. If that club is in Division 6 next year in a 9 Division competition it has 3 Divisions below it. You could even argue they have been promoted if you look at things from the bottom up rather than the other way around.
by whufc » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:44 pm
The Bedge wrote:whufc wrote:The Bedge wrote:whufc wrote:Would the relegation pill have been easier to swallow if the question/vote was cast before the season had started.
Last time I checked, we hadn't started 2022 yet
I meant would it have been better if clubs had a whole years notice to get their ship in order and ensure they did everything possible to not be in the relegation positions knowing it meant they would go down an 'extra' division. If the decision for next year was made before this year started no one would have been able to have any complaints and im sure more clubs would have been onside.
Now you're making excuses for these clubs and their crap. No bloody way. Wouldn't have made a single bit of difference.
Reality is, every year clubs know top 2 go up, bottom 2 go down.. and they "ensure they do everything possible" to be in that top 2.
by pureclass » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:49 pm
Down the Hill wrote:I'm still undecided on my own preference for 2022 but people have to get the term "relegation" out of their mindset. What is being proposed is a recalibration of the divisional structure based on reduced team numbers in each Division. A Division 5 club this year has 2 Divisions below it. If that club is in Division 6 next year in a 9 Division competition it has 3 Divisions below it. You could even argue they have been promoted if you look at things from the bottom up rather than the other way around.
by JesseWhite » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:52 pm
by jo172 » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:55 pm
JesseWhite wrote:I feel like people are also missing the fact that there will be no promotion (again) for clubs if you take the point of view the number of your division matters.
It really comes down to the perspective you have I suppose.
by Hector » Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:14 pm
whufc wrote:The Bedge wrote:whufc wrote:Would the relegation pill have been easier to swallow if the question/vote was cast before the season had started.
Last time I checked, we hadn't started 2022 yet
I meant would it have been better if clubs had a whole years notice to get their ship in order and ensure they did everything possible to not be in the relegation positions knowing it meant they would go down an 'extra' division. If the decision for next year was made before this year started no one would have been able to have any complaints and im sure more clubs would have been onside.
by Lightning McQueen » Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:27 pm
Dols wrote:You sound like Gladys Berejiklian!!!!Down the Hill wrote:I'm still undecided on my own preference for 2022 but people have to get the term "relegation" out of their mindset. What is being proposed is a recalibration of the divisional structure based on reduced team numbers in each Division. A Division 5 club this year has 2 Divisions below it. If that club is in Division 6 next year in a 9 Division competition it has 3 Divisions below it. You could even argue they have been promoted if you look at things from the bottom up rather than the other way around.
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by Lightning McQueen » Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:29 pm
Down the Hill wrote:I'm still undecided on my own preference for 2022 but people have to get the term "relegation" out of their mindset. What is being proposed is a recalibration of the divisional structure based on reduced team numbers in each Division. A Division 5 club this year has 2 Divisions below it. If that club is in Division 6 next year in a 9 Division competition it has 3 Divisions below it. You could even argue they have been promoted if you look at things from the bottom up rather than the other way around.
by Lightning McQueen » Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:30 pm
whufc wrote:The Bedge wrote:whufc wrote:Would the relegation pill have been easier to swallow if the question/vote was cast before the season had started.
Last time I checked, we hadn't started 2022 yet
I meant would it have been better if clubs had a whole years notice to get their ship in order and ensure they did everything possible to not be in the relegation positions knowing it meant they would go down an 'extra' division. If the decision for next year was made before this year started no one would have been able to have any complaints and im sure more clubs would have been onside.
by Lightning McQueen » Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:31 pm
Hector wrote:
That's one of the most ridiculous things I've read on here. Why would clubs be happy to be relegated regardless of how many teams will be in there division next year?
by whufc » Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:43 pm
Lightning McQueen wrote:whufc wrote:The Bedge wrote:whufc wrote:Would the relegation pill have been easier to swallow if the question/vote was cast before the season had started.
Last time I checked, we hadn't started 2022 yet
I meant would it have been better if clubs had a whole years notice to get their ship in order and ensure they did everything possible to not be in the relegation positions knowing it meant they would go down an 'extra' division. If the decision for next year was made before this year started no one would have been able to have any complaints and im sure more clubs would have been onside.
Surely you go out there each week to win with your best possible team available?
by Executive Member » Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:14 pm
Hector wrote:whufc wrote:The Bedge wrote:whufc wrote:Would the relegation pill have been easier to swallow if the question/vote was cast before the season had started.
Last time I checked, we hadn't started 2022 yet
I meant would it have been better if clubs had a whole years notice to get their ship in order and ensure they did everything possible to not be in the relegation positions knowing it meant they would go down an 'extra' division. If the decision for next year was made before this year started no one would have been able to have any complaints and im sure more clubs would have been onside.
That's one of the most ridiculous things I've read on here. Why would clubs be happy to be relegated regardless of how many teams will be in there division next year?
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