Jack to PULL THE PIN ?

[Cambridge Clarrie]

Sad state of affairs.

South supporters would have been on a high about a month ago and now look what's happened...

Huge changes necessary off field before anything positive happens for the club.

If it's true that the board didn't like Jack's coaching style/tactics, then this is a disgrace. He should have been given at least a season to prove he could set them in the right direction.

[doggies4eva]

Sad state of affairs.

South supporters would have been on a high about a month ago and now look what's happened...

Huge changes necessary off field before anything positive happens for the club.

If it's true that the board didn't like Jack's coaching style/tactics, then this is a disgrace. He should have been given at least a season to prove he could set them in the right direction.

I agree with you Cambridge.

While I am no fan of Jack's I don't agree with sacking coaches mid-season. The board only appointed him a short time ago. Didn't they consider his coaching style before appointing him?

[evans01]

Sad state of affairs.

South supporters would have been on a high about a month ago and now look what's happened...

Huge changes necessary off field before anything positive happens for the club.

If it's true that the board didn't like Jack's coaching style/tactics, then this is a disgrace. He should have been given at least a season to prove he could set them in the right direction.

I agree with you Cambridge.

While I am no fan of Jack's I don't agree with sacking coaches mid-season. The board only appointed him a short time ago. Didn't they consider his coaching style before appointing him?

love of hate jack, he has the score on the board, he is a tough coach and expects alot but isnt that wot its all about?....

the coach must always (in most cases) have the finally say..........sure you have to consider all aspects of the club but at the end of the day the committee knows how he coaches and his level of expectation and if the committee hadnt considered that prior to his appointment they are bigger fools than wot they have already shown to be......

[Squawk]

While I am no fan of Jack's I don't agree with sacking coaches mid-season. The board only appointed him a short time ago. Didn't they consider his coaching style before appointing him?

On the contrary, Jack was headhunted. He spent a lot of time thinking about it and even sought guidance from Jimmy Deane before committing to the job. South probably spent more time chasing Jack than the time they ended up having him for.

Question is, who put Jack's name up in the first instance? And then who supported it - certainly the past players on the (new) Board IIRC.

[qwerty]

Could the door open for Trevor Potts...

Took a 2's side full of local lads to a GF last year and was apparently respected by all until also told he would not be required the following season, wonder if this decision was made by the same board?

I hear all players backed Jack 100% and were also gutted last night at the announcement

[Squawk]

Could the door open for Trevor Potts...

Took a 2's side full of local lads to a GF last year and was apparently respected by all until also told he would not be required the following season, wonder if this decision was made by the same board?

I hear all players backed Jack 100% and were also gutted last night at the announcement

Trevor Potts wouldn't go back if that's the case.
If the players back Jack 100%, would they refuse to play their next game vs the Dogs and save some petrol money?
Re the timing, it is also curious that this has occurred at the bye for the State Game - gives the players extra time to 'accept' a new coach one would think.
The more I think about it, the more it sounds like a planned series of events where Jack has resigned as a result before he was pushed - although Pyman was pushed and....ker ching! I wonder if Jack has been offered some extra coin to sign a settlement requiring confidentiality?

[doggies4eva]

Maybe the players withdrew their 100% support when they had to train next weekend.

Surprising they wanted next weekend off when they are likely to get September off

[therisingblues]

Re the timing, it is also curious that this has occurred at the bye for the State Game - gives the players extra time to 'accept' a new coach one would think.
The more I think about it, the more it sounds like a planned series of events where Jack has resigned as a result before he was pushed - although Pyman was pushed and....ker ching! I wonder if Jack has been offered some extra coin to sign a settlement requiring confidentiality?

Could be as you say. But remember that "Idle hands are the Devil's tools." This time off for the state game probably presented itself as a time where the South Board, feeling they had time to screw about with no game on this weekend, decided that it'd be a good time to confront the coach about "issues" (very South word that). That's just another point of view.
The way I am reading this all, is after hearing the board's opinion, Jack (as mentioned earlier) probably didn't have the patience of his youth to put up with the criticism.
Where to now for South?
So many board changes, so many upheavals, so little success. I think we should at least wait for the official version before doing the diagnosis, but you gotta feel for those fans that go week in week out, and those that support them from around the world.

P.S Rushby I don't know how removing the cars, which have been allowed around the ground for two seasons, will somehow address a mediocrity that has been going on for over one hundred years.

[mal]

The late mail is Jack Cahill has pulled or is about to pull the pin on the Panthers.
ps. Dont forget I was 24 hours ahead of the media when Pyman got the flick.

Anyone heard or knows similar ?

Theres one thing Ive learnt over the years
When our G has a scoop
He is always right


What does the SA saga mean
=
Good coaches at bad clubs can fail

for example

BLIGHT/ST KILDA
CAHILL/SOUTH

Both are strong willed old school type coaches
They have gotten most clubs up and running in thier coaching careers
But when at SA/SK they had problems

[smac]

That all depends on motivation of the coach and the culture of the club Mal.

CD appointed Kerly in the late 80's, he raped the club financially and left it in a worse state on the field than when he arrived. Luckily Alan Stewart had been waiting in the wings for about 10 years and took over on the cheap.

After Kerley, the club wanted to change and learnt from past mistakes. StK and SA have yet to act like this is what they want (lots of talk, little action).

[am Bays]

Gee isn't this thread an interesting read in hindsight....

http://www.safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10563&start=0

[TigerBoss]

If South are smart they will approach Burgess, who is currently an assistant under Andy Collins at West. He is always in the final few candidates when league coaching jobs come up, and had a go at coaching a league side when Peter Simmons left the Bay a few years back.

[Pseudo]

Gee isn't this thread an interesting read in hindsight....

http://www.safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10563&start=0

No kidding - strawb and blacky's old avatars feature prominently

[Rotter]

I'm sure we've all got our own sources but mine has steadfastly claimed that the ex-players in Kappler, Buttler, Naley & Honour have been stirring the pot with Clay Sampson adding another to his buckle along with Pyman. I'm not suggesting their concerns were or weren't warranted because I don't know what exactly Jack has done to attract criticism but those blokes certainly have alot to answer for in this case. If he hasn't already, Sampson will take the reigns for the rest of the year. The only positive from that is he will finally know what Pyman and Cahill have had to contend with at a playing and Board level.

[Squawk]

what time is the media conference this arvo?

[TigerBoss]

Sampson and Torney should NOT even be considered as replacement for Cahill.

[locky801]

Time will reveal all no doubt however I really feel for the South supporters, yes I know we all have a go and say that there is only a handful of them but we know there is more than that. How many more years do these totally faithful supporters have to put up with all the crap that they get served up by this footy club, everytime there appears to be some light at the end of that very very long dark tunnel along comes another controversy. How these people remain loyal to their club is beyond me, they as a group deserve better, lets hope for their sake all the wrongs start to disappear and there is a brighter future for the SAFC and to give something for their hard done by supporters to cheer about


It is a pity that their footy club does not have the hard resolve these supporters do

[pipers]

P.S Rushby I don't know how removing the cars, which have been allowed around the ground for two seasons, will somehow address a mediocrity that has been going on for over one hundred years.

Karl Benz invented the motor car in 1885. South haven't had any sustained success of note since the 1890s...

You make the connection.

I know I have...

[westcoastpanther]

Time will reveal all no doubt however I really feel for the South supporters, yes I know we all have a go and say that there is only a handful of them but we know there is more than that. How many more years do these totally faithful supporters have to put up with all the crap that they get served up by this footy club, everytime there appears to be some light at the end of that very very long dark tunnel along comes another controversy. How these people remain loyal to their club is beyond me, they as a group deserve better, lets hope for their sake all the wrongs start to disappear and there is a brighter future for the SAFC and to give something for their hard done by supporters to cheer about


It is a pity that their footy club does not have the hard resolve these supporters do

We remain loyal because if we didn't follow South we wouldn't follow SANFL......

[saintal]

Sampson and Torney should NOT even be considered as replacement for Cahill.

Agree with you on this.

Not sure how many options are open to the club though