Grenville wrote:The Real Football Factories. 6 episodes on football hooliganism around England. Deadset f***en nutters.
This show also caught my eye, I thought it might provide an interesting insight into the ugly and inexplicable world of football hooliganism. I watched the first couple of minutes of the first episode, and its tone and the host (forget his name) with his 'orright bruvva, well 'ard, innit, na'what'a'mean' Sarf Lahndon cockney lad attitude turned me off. It seemed to be more of a celebration/glorification of 'tough guy' hooligans rather than recognising, explaining, and understanding why such a ****** up thing exists in civilised societies.
So, am I right, or should I give it a proper go (orright then bruvva)?
Danny Dyer likes to portray himself as a bit of a toughnut but you could tell he was shitting himself a few times in this series. Well worth a look, you can tell a few times Dyer can't fathom the reasoning behind why they do it and that they are proud of it.
Grenville wrote:The Real Football Factories. 6 episodes on football hooliganism around England. Deadset f***en nutters.
This show also caught my eye, I thought it might provide an interesting insight into the ugly and inexplicable world of football hooliganism. I watched the first couple of minutes of the first episode, and its tone and the host (forget his name) with his 'orright bruvva, well 'ard, innit, na'what'a'mean' Sarf Lahndon cockney lad attitude turned me off. It seemed to be more of a celebration/glorification of 'tough guy' hooligans rather than recognising, explaining, and understanding why such a ****** up thing exists in civilised societies.
So, am I right, or should I give it a proper go (orright then bruvva)?
Danny Dyer likes to portray himself as a bit of a toughnut but you could tell he was shitting himself a few times in this series. Well worth a look, you can tell a few times Dyer can't fathom the reasoning behind why they do it and that they are proud of it.
Cheers, will give it a go.
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Grenville wrote:The Real Football Factories. 6 episodes on football hooliganism around England. Deadset f***en nutters.
This show also caught my eye, I thought it might provide an interesting insight into the ugly and inexplicable world of football hooliganism. I watched the first couple of minutes of the first episode, and its tone and the host (forget his name) with his 'orright bruvva, well 'ard, innit, na'what'a'mean' Sarf Lahndon cockney lad attitude turned me off. It seemed to be more of a celebration/glorification of 'tough guy' hooligans rather than recognising, explaining, and understanding why such a ****** up thing exists in civilised societies.
So, am I right, or should I give it a proper go (orright then bruvva)?
Danny Dyer likes to portray himself as a bit of a toughnut but you could tell he was shitting himself a few times in this series. Well worth a look, you can tell a few times Dyer can't fathom the reasoning behind why they do it and that they are proud of it.
Cheers, will give it a go.
There was one that came out in 1995 called ID - can really recommend it.
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Grenville wrote:The Real Football Factories. 6 episodes on football hooliganism around England. Deadset f***en nutters.
This show also caught my eye, I thought it might provide an interesting insight into the ugly and inexplicable world of football hooliganism. I watched the first couple of minutes of the first episode, and its tone and the host (forget his name) with his 'orright bruvva, well 'ard, innit, na'what'a'mean' Sarf Lahndon cockney lad attitude turned me off. It seemed to be more of a celebration/glorification of 'tough guy' hooligans rather than recognising, explaining, and understanding why such a ****** up thing exists in civilised societies.
So, am I right, or should I give it a proper go (orright then bruvva)?
Danny Dyer likes to portray himself as a bit of a toughnut but you could tell he was shitting himself a few times in this series. Well worth a look, you can tell a few times Dyer can't fathom the reasoning behind why they do it and that they are proud of it.
Would of been great if Louis Theroux had done this. May have actually tried to find out something instead of playing to their egos and sounding like a wannabe.
Grenville wrote:The Real Football Factories. 6 episodes on football hooliganism around England. Deadset f***en nutters.
This show also caught my eye, I thought it might provide an interesting insight into the ugly and inexplicable world of football hooliganism. I watched the first couple of minutes of the first episode, and its tone and the host (forget his name) with his 'orright bruvva, well 'ard, innit, na'what'a'mean' Sarf Lahndon cockney lad attitude turned me off. It seemed to be more of a celebration/glorification of 'tough guy' hooligans rather than recognising, explaining, and understanding why such a ****** up thing exists in civilised societies.
So, am I right, or should I give it a proper go (orright then bruvva)?
Danny Dyer likes to portray himself as a bit of a toughnut but you could tell he was shitting himself a few times in this series. Well worth a look, you can tell a few times Dyer can't fathom the reasoning behind why they do it and that they are proud of it.
Would of been great if Louis Theroux had done this. May have actually tried to find out something instead of playing to their egos and sounding like a wannabe.
Good call. Louis' docos are always thought-provoking and interesting, he seems to have a knack of asking tough questions in awkward situations without getting up the interviewee's nose.
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mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Starting on Manhunt- Unabomber
Quite good but not sure Iike the flicking back and forth.
Finished this one last night, thought it was pretty good, if slightly historically inaccurate (as with most 'based on a true story' shows). An interesting story nonetheless, particularly the background to Ted Kaszcynski.
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Grenville wrote:The Real Football Factories. 6 episodes on football hooliganism around England. Deadset f***en nutters.
That's what happens when you pay good money after bad to go and watch scoreless draws in -°'s after riding on a tube for an hour, you get angry.
I simply cannot understand the mentality of these morons. Most of them follow sides who have never achieved anything of note other than perhaps a 4th round FA Cup loss in the 90's.
Absolute dickheads who somehow have an admiring few in Australia who think it's tough/cool to try and be the same.
Grenville wrote:There was one that came out in 1995 called ID - can really recommend it.
Don't remember that one, was it a movie or doco?[/quote]
Movie based on an undercover cop infiltrating a group of hooligans & getting too involved. I’ve heard they’ve recently bought out a sequel. (ID2 released 2016)
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Grenville wrote:The Real Football Factories. 6 episodes on football hooliganism around England. Deadset f***en nutters.
That's what happens when you pay good money after bad to go and watch scoreless draws in -°'s after riding on a tube for an hour, you get angry.
I simply cannot understand the mentality of these morons. Most of them follow sides who have never achieved anything of note other than perhaps a 4th round FA Cup loss in the 90's.
Absolute dickheads who somehow have an admiring few in Australia who think it's tough/cool to try and be the same.
Watched about an hour of it. I understand them more now, they're morons.
Grenville wrote:There was one that came out in 1995 called ID - can really recommend it.
Don't remember that one, was it a movie or doco?
Movie based on an undercover cop infiltrating a group of hooligans & getting too involved. I’ve heard they’ve recently bought out a sequel. (ID2 released 2016)[/quote]
Grenville wrote:The Real Football Factories. 6 episodes on football hooliganism around England. Deadset f***en nutters.
This show also caught my eye, I thought it might provide an interesting insight into the ugly and inexplicable world of football hooliganism. I watched the first couple of minutes of the first episode, and its tone and the host (forget his name) with his 'orright bruvva, well 'ard, innit, na'what'a'mean' Sarf Lahndon cockney lad attitude turned me off. It seemed to be more of a celebration/glorification of 'tough guy' hooligans rather than recognising, explaining, and understanding why such a ****** up thing exists in civilised societies.
So, am I right, or should I give it a proper go (orright then bruvva)?
Danny Dyer likes to portray himself as a bit of a toughnut but you could tell he was shitting himself a few times in this series. Well worth a look, you can tell a few times Dyer can't fathom the reasoning behind why they do it and that they are proud of it.
Would of been great if Louis Theroux had done this. May have actually tried to find out something instead of playing to their egos and sounding like a wannabe.
To be honest it would've been dangerous having Louis Theroux doing it. An intelligent bloke challenging morons like them wouldn't end well I reckon.
Grenville wrote:The Real Football Factories. 6 episodes on football hooliganism around England. Deadset f***en nutters.
That's what happens when you pay good money after bad to go and watch scoreless draws in -°'s after riding on a tube for an hour, you get angry.
I simply cannot understand the mentality of these morons. Most of them follow sides who have never achieved anything of note other than perhaps a 4th round FA Cup loss in the 90's.
Absolute dickheads who somehow have an admiring few in Australia who think it's tough/cool to try and be the same.
Watched about an hour of it. I understand them more now, they're morons.
Kahuna wrote:Would of been great if Louis Theroux had done this. May have actually tried to find out something instead of playing to their egos and sounding like a wannabe.
To be honest it would've been dangerous having Louis Theroux doing it. An intelligent bloke challenging morons like them wouldn't end well I reckon.
I reckon he'd do alright. In the past he's successfully challenged neo-Nazis and white supremacists having admitted he's Jewish, for example. If you can get out alive from that then anything's possible.
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Been watching 'Hip-Hop Evolution' in the last day or so. A really interesting analysis of the backstory of hip hop from the South Bronx through to Run DMC and Public Enemy in the 1980s, then to the West Coast, gangsta rap, and its modern day incarnations (which is far less interesting than the music that started it IMHO). Interviews with key DJs and rappers are quite revealing. Some great old-school footage of late 70s-early 80s New York as well. It also introduces you to some of the lesser known artists and tracks that influenced the development of the genre, like this track (considered by many as the first example of 'rapping'):
Anyhoo, definitely worth a look if you like this sort of thing.
@Dogwatcher The first episode bears a strong resemblance to the plot and characters in 'The Get Down', and demonstrates that it's quite an accurate depiction of the origins of hip hop.
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Magellan wrote:Been watching 'Hip-Hop Evolution' in the last day or so. A really interesting analysis of the backstory of hip hop from the South Bronx through to Run DMC and Public Enemy in the 1980s, then to the West Coast, gangsta rap, and its modern day incarnations (which is far less interesting than the music that started it IMHO). Interviews with key DJs and rappers are quite revealing. Some great old-school footage of late 70s-early 80s New York as well. It also introduces you to some of the lesser known artists and tracks that influenced the development of the genre, like this track (considered by many as the first example of 'rapping'):
Anyhoo, definitely worth a look if you like this sort of thing.
@Dogwatcher The first episode bears a strong resemblance to the plot and characters in 'The Get Down', and demonstrates that it's quite an accurate depiction of the origins of hip hop.
I've watched both of these. I thought the timing was interesting and wondered if the doco was put up on Nextflix to tie in with 'The Get Down'. Hip Hop Evolution is fantastic. Here come da judge!
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