Wonder how many sides have been able to field 25 blokes each week without any issue.
Last couple seasons just seemed like clubs (some obviously more than others) are struggling for commitment and players from week to week.. and then when you add the workload and additional resources on top for a bunch of C graders seems a waste.
Shorter season, shorter quarters, shorter teams = winning.
How well is Henley going as a club, entered a 4th team that is very competitive in C6, they had a gun tall defender.
Still think people are missing the point.. it's not all about whether something is broken.. do you not think it could be improved? Should we not be constantly looking for ways to improve our clubs/competitions?
Do you not think some people might find a shorter season and quarters more appealing? Your trainers? Your volunteers? Your older players?
It's good to promote the kids as Locky mentioned - you don't think it might be easier to promote and liaise with their coaches with a shorter seasons and quarters - slightly less work load (albeit very marginal).
#ShorterCGradeSeasons
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
Shorter seasons impact the fringe B-graders, weakening that comp. C-grade is nothing more than a feeder to the bees. They should therefore do whatever is best for the B-grade. Full season it is!
Danny Southern telling Plugga he's fat, I'd like to see that!
The Bedge wrote:Still think people are missing the point.. it's not all about whether something is broken.. do you not think it could be improved? Should we not be constantly looking for ways to improve our clubs/competitions?
Do you not think some people might find a shorter season and quarters more appealing? Your trainers? Your volunteers? Your older players?
It's good to promote the kids as Locky mentioned - you don't think it might be easier to promote and liaise with their coaches with a shorter seasons and quarters - slightly less work load (albeit very marginal).
We're big fans of the 10:15am timeslot for C Grade games and our D Grade players have also loved this timeslot for a majority of their games this Season as its allowed them to get back and watch the A Grade if they want to.
We've actually found it more difficult to fill our sides when they play away from the A/B Grade traditional curtain raiser timeslot or are required to play at 2pm or 12pm.
We've had instances this Season where guys have missed out on a D Grade game as we've had 25 in each squad. That hasnt happened in a long time at Modbury (since our E Grade days) and i think a big part of that is the attraction to the 10:15am timeslot for our older lads who want are transitioning into retirement to get their worklife balance back (family time). They can still play the game they love but have the whole afternoon free to do as they please.
Our C Grade is also made up of at least 10-15 guys each week pushing for B Grade who would be deterred by a shorter quarters or a shorter season as it would mean they get less games in for the fee's they are being asked to pay.
The Bedge wrote:Still think people are missing the point.. it's not all about whether something is broken.. do you not think it could be improved? Should we not be constantly looking for ways to improve our clubs/competitions?
Do you not think some people might find a shorter season and quarters more appealing? Your trainers? Your volunteers? Your older players?
It's good to promote the kids as Locky mentioned - you don't think it might be easier to promote and liaise with their coaches with a shorter seasons and quarters - slightly less work load (albeit very marginal).
#ShorterCGradeSeasons
from a numbers perspective, more people are now playing golf than they were 3-5 years ago including a lot of blocks aged 25-35 - with TTG just going back to a waiting list and highercombe taking on 200-250 new members in the last 12 months - Will be interesting to see the flow-on effect in the next 12-24 months to see if this effects lower grade footy number as well.
I can only imagine this golf participation increase is at a lot of other parts of town as well.
Trader wrote:Shorter seasons impact the fringe B-graders, weakening that comp. C-grade is nothing more than a feeder to the bees. They should therefore do whatever is best for the B-grade. Full season it is!
Talking like 4 games - perhaps two games at the start of the season, finals at the back.. can't see how the impact on the B grade could/would be that significant, if anything perhaps would help to strengthen B grade sides through the middle part of the year with fresher/fitter players.. also leading into finals, you'd think you'd get greater commitment by players?
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
We play 20 minutes no time on in the NEFL b grade.
That seems to be about spot on. If your a gun you can still get enough of the ball to make it enjoyable, if your a pleb like me your still wasting the last five minutes waiting for the siren to go. Coach is still able to rotate blokes fairly and games seems to be a tad closer for longer with fitness playing slightly less of an importance.
Noting we seem to have more C Grade divisions now than have existed for a fair while this discussion seems to be a bit of a solution in need of a problem.
From purely selfish reasons I wish they'd piss off the 10:15 games but understand the macro benefits in terms of logistics and oval availability.
jo172 wrote:Noting we seem to have more C Grade divisions now than have existed for a fair while this discussion seems to be a bit of a solution in need of a problem.
From purely selfish reasons I wish they'd piss off the 10:15 games but understand the macro benefits in terms of logistics and oval availability.
I don't like the timeslot either. I think there is more and more guys leaning to just putting their hands up for cgrade only as it frees up their afternoons and in some clubs doubling up to play bgrade as well can be a bgrade coach's headache, playing 2nd tier to cgrade.
jo172 wrote:Noting we seem to have more C Grade divisions now than have existed for a fair while this discussion seems to be a bit of a solution in need of a problem.
From purely selfish reasons I wish they'd piss off the 10:15 games but understand the macro benefits in terms of logistics and oval availability.
I don't like the timeslot either. I think there is more and more guys leaning to just putting their hands up for cgrade only as it frees up their afternoons and in some clubs doubling up to play bgrade as well can be a bgrade coach's headache, playing 2nd tier to cgrade.
We play at 1210 and I actually wouldn't mind the 10:15 timeslot.
As an oldie im not going out and getting hammered on a Friday night these days, at most a 6 pack of beer whilst watching the footy. Get up early, a tad of breakfast, get the game done and then the world is my oyster. Still have the day to do family things or alternatively have a lads day at the footy and get on the turps by midday.
The Bedge wrote:Still think people are missing the point.. it's not all about whether something is broken.. do you not think it could be improved? Should we not be constantly looking for ways to improve our clubs/competitions?
Do you not think some people might find a shorter season and quarters more appealing? Your trainers? Your volunteers? Your older players?
It's good to promote the kids as Locky mentioned - you don't think it might be easier to promote and liaise with their coaches with a shorter seasons and quarters - slightly less work load (albeit very marginal).
#ShorterCGradeSeasons
I don't think shortening the season, quarters and players is an improvement. Hectorville have never had so many numbers (we haven't had to forfeit C grade at all this season, first time in a long long time) and reducing players only increases the number of guys who will miss out each week. Shortening the season will also impact the B's, for teams with B's in finals it limits who might be available if C grade finishes weeks before. You wouldn't do it to the B grade comp, why to the C grade?
Saw some Z grade footy on the weekend and no boundary umpires is ridiculous. Field umpires were relying on the players calling it. Going to be trouble when a close match is involved.
Under_Scrutiny wrote:Saw some Z grade footy on the weekend and no boundary umpires is ridiculous. Field umpires were relying on the players calling it. Going to be trouble when a close match is involved.
Reduce the age to 12 and pay the kids!
Clubs are still allowed to provide boundary umpires.
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
Under_Scrutiny wrote:Saw some Z grade footy on the weekend and no boundary umpires is ridiculous. Field umpires were relying on the players calling it. Going to be trouble when a close match is involved.
Reduce the age to 12 and pay the kids!
Clubs are still allowed to provide boundary umpires.
We supplied a boundary umpire in our C grade, just for the umpires to send him home saying he wasnt needed as our opponent didnt supply one. No one to fetch the footies and umpires struggled to see the boundary lines as stated above. After the match we had a chat and they said they may have got it wrong in regards to not allowing one boundary when the other team doesnt have one.
Tough gig for field umpires who have been trained to stay central to the oval to also manage the boundary line calls. But as youve said Bedge, if clubs have issues they just need to try and find the people to take up the role.
We find its a great way to engage with our juniors and a decent way for them to earn some pocket money too. Was a shame to see one of them turned away but on the bright side, we still paid him as he rocked up. Round 1 teething issues no doubt.
I would prefer seeing one boundary umpire on one side, than none at all.. no harm surely.
The Ingle Farm vs Trinity B grade game I watched went smoothly without boundary umpires (although one sided), it actually seemed like players were more aware of the rules and what was happening than the umpires - often they'd just hand the ball over to the opposition for their kick, or pick up and someone would already be standing the mark, whilst the umpires were still hobbling around into position.
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
